Sergio Mora defeats Peter Manfredo Jr again

Contender: Season One champion Sergio Mora and Contender: Season One finalist Peter Manfredo Jr picked up where they left off in their championship contest back in May, fighting to an exciting eight-round split decision Saturday night at the Staples Center in Los Angeles.

Mora was cut over the left eye in round one and outworked significantly in the punch stats, but did enough to win 77-75 on two cards.

Manfredo was ahead 77-75 on the third card. Fightnews scored it 76-76.

In a Contender: Season One rematch, super middleweight Jesse Brinkley took a controversial five round decision over Anthony Bonsante.

Bonsante, who was stopped by Brinkley in their previous “Contender” fight, outworked Brinkley for most this encounter and the scores of 49-46, 48-47, 48-47 for Brinkley brought boos from the large crowd of approximately 15,000.

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Fightnews scored it 49-46 for Bonsante, who later came out of the dressing room and did a “victory lap” amongst the fans.

370 thoughts on “Sergio Mora defeats Peter Manfredo Jr again

  1. hayleigh-louise

    hiya, i think the decision with the rematch of peter manfredo jr and sergio mora, was so unfair peter manfredo jr won that fight hands down and i think that the decision was total faulse the judges just wanted mora to win and stay as the contenaned, the title should be peter manfredo jr’s and not sergio mora. sergio will no that he didnt win fairly and peter will always be the true winner, no matter wat the judges say. he was the better fight, and always will be. well done peter manfredo jr your a great fighter. love hayleighXxX

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  2. jamie

    the decision was the biggest load of bull#### ive have ever known, sergio it still going on like he won but he didnt, there was only one winner and that was peter, the guy is a hero, he worked so had to completely turn it around after the first fight and to be robbed like that is criminal, he is a true hero and have the upmost respect for him, sergio is the poor loser, he should admit peter won and stop the excuses. he`s a disgrace to keep walking around with the belt. peter is a true hero!
    j from london

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  3. Brian Blanchette

    I felt that the whole fight night was a set-up starting with the second fight between Anthony and Jesse, and finishing with Peter and Sergio. Both Anthony and Peter were robbed. I watch both fights over for a second time just to verify what I already witnessed, they both won and got the short end of a California bad judge/refree tag team.

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  4. batch

    manfredo got robbed…..i would love to spank mora around come to boston mora…fight me here chump….manfredo should be champ…tough ass dude and he aint a punk like sergio….manfredo won that fight with class…boxing is fixed…shit is bullshit…team manfredo baby

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  5. Herbie N

    peter has inproved. Since he lost to ALFONSO. Everyone forgets that he lost to a guy two weight classes below him! Maybe its just time to admit that he is just not the great fighter we all thought. He did redeem himself, not in a convincing fashion.He barely beat alfonso.

    As far as sergio. It was a boxing match, That does not mean if get a cut your getting beat, like most assume! Sergio clearly out boxed his opponent even as he had to take more of a defensive roll to protect his cut. He is that much better.Faster and skilled. They both have heart. Like most that know the sport, I believe that if they faught 10 times sergio more would win all ten.

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    1. Goatlips

      Total bollocks! Mora was easily the best on the show. But he seemingly hadn’t trained at all since and Manfredo pissed all over him in the rematch – so the TV producers had to fix the result for their prize asset.
      Even Mora’s mum know he was shat on by Manfredo. Bigot.

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  6. SMF

    Peter did not win.
    Peter, we can give him the more improved fighter since their last encounter.
    Sergio beat Peter the first time for 7 entire rounds. This time Sergio only beat him for about 5 or 6 rounds.
    Thus Peter improved but he did not win.

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  7. Herbie N

    I addition I would like to mention that, the media portrayed manfredo as the best boxer there. As well as the show from day one. for those that think of set up theory! let you guys figure that one on your own!

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  8. Todd

    Let’s face it: Manfredo’s and Mora’s performance was mediocre at best. What’s surprising to me at this juncture is that neither of them have revealed a punch in their arsonery with a “sting.” While no one questions Mora’s fast hands, even the punches he landed had much of an effect. Mora’s body language while punching gives the appearance he’s throwing piercing punches as he thrusts his body when imparting body shots. As for who actually won, I would say that Manfredo beat himself both time, especially in the first fight when it was apparent he was exhausted early on, possibly overtrained or not enough. Mora loves the attention he’s getting these days and who woundn’t? It borders narcissistic, however, considering the number of times the live camera at the Caesar’s Palace bout caught him glancing upward to view “himself” on the big screen while in his corner and in the end when the winner was announced inside. Manfredo’s performance went from bad to respectable the second fight, but he affirmed my opinion early on that he lacks the versatility, speed, and sheer punching power of a great boxer. In fairness, he stuffed Joey Gilbert, despire the headbutt, and later Alfonso Gomez. While I didn’t get to see Manfredo before The Contender, it’s obvious he was much more effective a fighter than now, given his then high ranking. You’re as good as your last fight, and what this last fight revealed was that both Manfredo and Mora will, eventually, disappear into Reality TV oblivion. In the end, let us not forget they’re stand-up athletes with heart and determination and gave us all a peek into the lives of boxers, which has helped put a human face on the sport of boxing. Keep on punching gentleman!

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  9. Timmy

    Even though i am a big fan of sergio’s I definetly think that Manfredo that night was the true winner of the rematch against Mora. Mora has turned big headed. Manfredo has improved a hell of a lot, all the credit should go to Manfredo because to me and a lot of people he is the TRUE CONTENDER.

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  10. Todd

    I agree with you Timmy about Mora turning big-headed these days. I visited his website, http://www.sergiomoraboxing, where he contends that the cut inflicted during the rematch was the direct result of a headbutt, not a punch, and even though Manfredo “supposedly” threw more punches, he says, he, Mora, landed the ones that counted. Pompous ass. Know this: Mora is pissing away that million dollar prize… and fast. He’s all ready gone on a bunch of vacations from Hawaii to Europe – and has planned to do more of them, by his own admission, which is fine…but what about all the talk about buying momma the house? In an interview, he claims that he had no idea how expensive real estate in East LA is(Hello? Mora has lived in L.A. his entire life!) Every time he bids a home, he goes on to claim, somebody else comes along with a higher one. S-u-r-e. Sergio Mora is falling into the same bling-bling trap that infects most boxers who get their hands on the greenbacks. Mora has finally revealed his true colors, making some truly uncalled-for remarks immediately following the rematch about how Manfredo should “stop being a sore loser” and assured his fans that the cut above his eye was caused by a headbutt, as if he would be less of a man if it was Manfredo’s punch that caused it. On his website, he also mentions how he had the flu the week before the fight…to substantiate to his fans why he didn’t knock out Manfredo, as he promised? Well, he was far from doing that. It’s just a matter of time folks before “The Snake” is piss broke, the “Snake Pit” disappears, and the only image he has of himself will be the one in the Contender videotape set, of which he surely has plenty of copies. It’s a video of his life past that he’ll be watching for a long time, in the same shabby apartment with that dumb lawyer girlfriend, probably whining about how the commentators rematch night misrepresented him.

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  11. Herbie

    manfredo did not dominate any fight versus mora. I thought people were here to talk about boxing! I guess as long as mora keeps defeating manfredo, he will continue making money and spend it as he wishes. whether it was a punch or a headbutt it doesnt matter cause manfredo didnt capitalize on it! what does that show about the way people think he destroyed mora? if you look at the round by round description at manfredos website, mora should of been carried out on a stretcher. If you look at whats on moras its more realistic like what the judges looked at! Am I the only white in america that thinks manfredo lost. whats going on here?

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  12. Brian Blanchette

    Manfredo won the rematch fight, that is clearly evident by the Leader card and the announcer with many years of experience saying that Manfredo was in alot more control and Mora was not. Now you can judge it like they did that night but that will only be your opinion. If you weigh the facts Peter won and should be the Champ. I have seen Peter fight before the Contender and watched him win the NABO title. He will be back and this time maybe Mora won’t be so lucky and we can shut down all you Mora supporters.

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  13. Sore Peter

    For those of you that are reading such non sense please don’t buy into the vicious nasty rumors posted by Todd. Sergio Mora was cut by an accidental head butt there was a lot of it and that is due to the way manfredo leans in with his head and his height is at eye level of Mora.
    As far as Mora taking trips? They are paid for by Mark B.
    Sergio has not bought the house for his mother because he wants to buy her a huge house. Sergio moved out and now lives next door to his family in a small apartment. Sergio is living with one of his older brothers and Sergio sleeps on the couch. I dont see no bling bling action there.
    Sergio said he is looking to move out of Los Angeles and buy a house where prices are cheaper.
    Sergio did say this to Peter at the post press. He said Peter if you can’t beat me when I am at my worst, YOU WILL NEVER BEAT ME!
    I will beat you in Providence! And this time I will knock you out Said Mora.

    Peter the scary cat did not agree to it.

    I say Peter is a chicken.

    Had some one challenged me like that I would of jumped all over it.

    Peter peed on himself and did not know what to say.
    Then Freddy Roach whisperd into Peters ear and told Peter what to say.

    Peter said:
    “Sergio, will you kiss me? Will you kiss me Sergio? Because I love to be kissed while I am being fucked.”

    Lol Peter has the hots for Sergio. What a fag.

    He wants Sergio to bone him and kiss him. No wonder Peter wears a skirt and does all that hugging.

    LMAO

    The Gay Pride Of Providance

    jijijijijijij

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  14. Todd

    To Sore Peter: You call my assessment “vicious nasty rumors” – which is, contrarily, based on sound, documented web information coming from Mora himself. Instead, you resort to calling Manfredo a “fag…Peter wants Mora to bone him” and so on. Advice: Read my assessments again and maybe you’ll learn how to write and also what it means to write critically, yet fairly, and without resorting to the kind of low-life, cheap talk that you bring that offers little to no insight for meaningful discourse.

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  15. Herbie

    this was a chat about boxing!lol! what wo-manfredo does on his own time is his buisness. what mora does with his money is his buisness. there is no such thing as a sound documents anymore cause anything and everything can be broken down and taken out of context! the outcome manfredo got his ass kicked twice by mora. since you cant say anything bad about his boxing so you come down on his money management! Incase you dont know one million is not alot for a pro athelte. unless you play hockey and soccer! whatever!

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  16. Todd

    Herb – If you look at the rematch scorecards, by no stretch of the imagination would I call Mora’s win an “ass kicking” as you do. He won soundly, agreed. If you read my earlier remarks, I referred to Mora’s (and Manfredo’s) limited boxing ability. If you look at both fights, but particularly the rematch, it was a pillow fight – the punches had little impact…and as far as Mora scoring a knockout in any upcoming bout, I consider it almost impossible. I’ll admit that Mora would beat Manfredo, no matter how many times they fight, but the round-by-round action will always be the same. To be honest, I’m really not interested in Manfredo – I’d love to see Bonsanti vs. Mora or Gonzalez vs. Mora. Bonsanti is a wild fighter, but his punch has an authentic sting and, in my mind, he’s the hungriest of the Contender fighters. He just needs to do more boxing and less wrestling in there and he’ll be fine! Gonzalez is the rightful next challenger for Mora. As far as your remark about no such thing as “sound documents anymore because anything and everything can be broken down or taken out of context,” I need to inform you that you’re a real moron. I’m sorry, but you deserve it, that’s just a really dumb thing to say. Think about it: Try breaking down the truth of 1+1=2…next you’re going to tell us that 1+1 might equal three because it depends how you look at it…(silly boy).

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  17. Herbie

    ooh boy? todd you sincerely think that it is only your way or the highway. How woman of you! Have you ever heard the term half full or half empty? What people see and the way they interpret in their minds is the truth to them. regardless of how the author meant it.guided by their commom sense or lack off. regarding my statement of sound documents it was a general statement. wouldnt this be a better world if everyone saw things your way. your just mad your girlfriend lost! I think if anyone deserves a shot at manfredo is alfonso gomez. they beat each other once! thanks for calling me a moron by the way . it was sweet of you lol!

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  18. Todd

    Herb: So when you said that Manfredo is a “fag” and him wanting to “bone” Mora, I “interpret” that to mean that you’re a homophobic ass. I’m not sore that Manfredo lost — you ought to pay attention to what Brian said about announcers. But, Brian and me must be wrong, because, it’s all as you say: meaning is whatever the person at any given time who interprets says it is. I also believe that 1+1 equals 5! So I must be right because that’s my interpretation of my experience of 1+1! Human reason has gotten men safely to the moon. It also led to ingenious inventions, like the combustible engine that gets you back and forth to work every day… Herb, I take back the homophobe remark, you’re just a simpleton. Sing along now Herb: “A..B..C…D…E…F…G…” Go Bonsante!

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  19. Todd

    To all you Contender fans out there, What do you think about Joey Gilbert being selected by Sly Stallone to be spokesperson for Stallone’s new nutrition line, Insone? Gilbert may be fighting in November in England, last I read. He gave Manfredo a hell of a fight and if it wasn’t for that unintentional headbutt that caused the deep cut above his eye, Gilbert may have pulled that one out. I also heard him and Gonzalez are co-writing a book on the ABC’s of boxing. Go get that money now boys!

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  20. gaby

    look todd i don’t know you but don’t you know how to lose your little girlfriend lost and i don’t think you should be talking about herbie because he is so right
    well sergio won again and no matter what other people think THE LATIN SNAKE kicked ass again.
    anyways i would like to see gomes vs.manfredo againthat would be a good fight.

    love always
    gaby

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  21. Todd

    Gab, You’re obviously a confused little boy, but that’s okay, I like you. I all ready conceded that Snake is ‘da man’ as far as Manfredo goes, even though the fight announcers and the total number of punches calculated favored Manfredo. Problem with Lil’ Snake-y Poo is that his hand speed is terrific, but his punch lacks impact, which is a big problem if he wishes to stand toe-to-toe in the Lion’s Den with da big boyz, you know what I’m saying gaby? But, Lil’ Snake-y Poo’s got a million dollars and some. If he’s smart, he’ll take the money and go to college to get the education he said he desired early in the Contender show. Because look at Muhammad Ali, the guy’s brains are like scrambled eggs from all that rope-a-doping. Who is Gomes any way? never heard of the cat. Is he good? By the way, Where’s Herb when you need him?

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  22. Charlotte

    Hey y’all

    it’s good to see so many people who respected Peter.
    I am Peters cuzzen and was at the fight when he lost.
    He shud of won it was a fixed match and all of my family think the same

    Peter is very thank full for all the support given to him by the public!

    At the moment he is still going to work hard for m,ore up comming fights

    On b half of the family and peter we thank every 1 for there support

    Thanxs again

    XxXxX

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  23. herbie

    wow todd let me teach you something! as far as boxing the judges du their job! which is judge THATS IT ! the announcers anounce thats their only job. their opinion and how they write their cards is unofficial. that is why their card are wrong lots of times. I think for anouncers to read their totals is wrong cause people like you dont listen even though they tell you time and after time that it is UNOFFICIAL! ALL THEY HEAR IS THE NUMBERS NOT THE UNOFFICIAL PART. beacuse they are annoucers duh! TO BRING THAT POINT UP IS POINTLESS! the botton line i can say mora put boxed him!fredo ran out of gas! none had definate control of the fight! SOOOO BELIEVE WHAT EVER MAKES YOU HAPPY! THANK YOU FOR TAKING THAT COMMENT ABOUT ME BEING A HOMEPHOBE!

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  24. Todd

    Herb, I agree and disagree with your point about the judges being the only judge that counts. Let’s face it, people in charge don’t always do the right thing or make the right decisions. I don’t have to tell you that President Bush’s decision to go to war was despicably wrong – 2 years later and over 2000 US soldiers dead and suicide bombers still going strong. Leaders, judges, whoever, make wrong decisions occasionally. Sure, less so than “we” do. Then again, maybe not. Don’t be blind to that just because your man won. Did you see the Bonsanti-Brinkley II?? The crowd booed and Stallone, Ishe Smith, and even Mark Brunette openly thought Bonsanti had won, including myself and friends who don’t like Bonsanti. Mora had one exceptional round that solidified his lead and perhaps added momentum in his favor for the rounds that followed, but Manfredo was never “out of the fight.” Charlotte says she was at the fight: Which section were you sitting in Charlotte? I have my money on Bonsanti in a Bonsanti-Mora bout — he’s got killer instincts and an intensity to train like an animal. I say give the guy a shot at the Contender belt – he’s got heart and a love for boxing that is inspiring! By his own admission, Mora said he doesn’t ‘love boxing,” he just happened to fall into something he’s very good at. Now Manfredo, the guy loves the sport; it’s in his bones! Go Manfredo!!

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  25. Jamie

    oit i just want to say dat i think manfredois just sooo cute and a heavey boxer, btw i am from england they havent shown us the reamatch yet and now u have told me whos won!!! ahhhhh lol. bye x

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  26. Charlotte

    jamie they have shown the rematch it was on itv2 last tuesday i think

    Todd where u at the boxing ?

    If u no where sly stolone was i was 3 rows up from him. My dad was with peter

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  27. Charlotte

    yeh im from england lol but i am originally from america lol

    where bouts in england u from ??

    So who ya like out of da contender lol

    Not hard 4 me 2 say lol like (peter) but i do like alfonso 1 ahell of a fighter

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  28. gaby

    this website is for comments about sergio winning so pleace if you guys are going to talk about personal life or were you guys come from then talk in the phone pleace.
    im not trying to be mean or anything ok.
    sergio is a realy good boxer and so is manfredo but sergio won the fight i realy would like to see is alfonso vs. sergio.

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  29. Charles

    I never heard so much bull #### in my life. Open your eyes! Peter Manfredo made Sergio “the worm” Mora his b*tch. The fight was clean…. Sorry Sergio no head butt was involved, that was Peters fist ripping your skull open. Also, did you watch the match on mute? Everyone at the arena boood the decision and every announcer agreed that Peter was the victor. You all know in your heart that Peter won, Especially Sergio himself.

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  30. Todd

    Charles just made a good point!! I forgot about the crowd booing, and Snakey looked mighty upset after “winning” badmouthing Manfredo first chance he got with the mic. I still say Bonsanti is the right man to put a hole in Mora’s chest.

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  31. Todd

    And Mora is making excuses that he had the “flue the week before” which put a damper on his “performance.” Let him wipe his ass with that million dollars — it won’t be long before he’s pissed it all away, and some hungry fighter makes Mora his bitch.

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  32. Charlotte

    yeh but u guys u have to admit that sergio is 1 hell of a fighter even tho he did not deserve to win the last fight.

    In my eyes and my family’s eyes the judges were paid to make sergio the winner !
    At the end of the day it is bull

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  33. gaby

    look we all know that manfredo and sergio are hell of boxers but sergio won again i have nothing against manfredo but he did lose two times to the latin snake not the worm like some of you call him.
    sergio congrat you won ones again,
    manfredo congrats too it was a hell of a fight!

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  34. Jamie

    im soooooooooooooooo JELOUS AND ANNOYED DAT I DIDNT SEE DA REMATCH BETWEEN MORA AND MANFREDO BOCZ I WATCHED THE CONTENDER ALL THE WAY THROUGH, BUT I CAN BELIVE EVERYONE ON HERE STATING THAT PETER SHOULD HAVE WON BEOCZ HE IS DA BETTER FIGHTER, WTF R THE JUDGES ON….. BASTARDS, ANYWAY I HOPE THE SHOW IT AGAIN BCOZ I WANT TO C IT. JAMIe.(female)

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  35. Ross

    after reading all these comments i still dont get how people can say mora won the fight! i am a manfredo fan and can say he was easily defeated in the contender final but the rematch clearly showed mora couldnt deal with the improved manfredo! forever chopping and changing to south paw but manfredo kept him at bay! mora won only 2-3 of the rounds and manfredo should be the champ!
    Ross, Glasgow, Scotland

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  36. Charlotte

    wRoss you have made one hell of a point i agree!

    You should of heared the crowd booing when the decission was made.

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  37. Jamie

    orrrrrrrr is there anyway i can see the rematch on the internet, if so can people say wherre i can see it? plzzzz if ya no anything how i can see itid be really gratefull. ta

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  38. Todd

    Snake needs to put away that damn Puerto Rican Flag he keeps wrapping himself in…as if it was puerto rico that gave him a million dollars. NO, IT WAS THE AMERICAN VIEWERS THAT MADE IT POSSIBLE!!!! Snake the dick.

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  39. Fnog

    Mora won the fight. It seems like most people who say Manfredo won get WAY to damn overdramatic and go overboard…. claiming that boxing has lost all respect, “the contender could have had it all… but”. Give me a break!! It was a close fight. I thought Mora won it. If you think Manfredo won, fine, but why have so many people blown this way the hell out of proportion?

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  40. Charlotte

    fnog: Did u see the rematch or wat???

    Peter shud of won!! If u dnt think Mora shud of won ur ar blind!

    Peter is still standing tall and soon to fight again

    Is it true about the rumours of the contender 2 half boys half girls ??? anyone no please let me no

    thANXS

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  41. Ross

    hey charlotte do u happen to know what is up with manfredo’s website? it doesnt allow me to go on anymore and i dont know anything about his future fights? even when the website was working it wasnt updated after he defeated alfonso. does anyone know if he will have a fight in the uk? And jamie explain how mora won the fight? it seems u and a few other people seem to have been watching a diff fight

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  42. charlotte

    hey ross

    what is the website name he has a couple

    if u give me it i will be able to find out for you thanxs
    Sorry for it not being up dated peter has been busy i think thats y

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  43. herbie

    Forget the hype! all you manfredo fans where fooled by the media! yeah yeah yeah! All you women out there manfredo is sooooo cute! lol!

    They hype up a white boxer for white america. who is dating a black girl with his kid! hitting up every demographic they can!!! possible?why do you think he was braught back? boxing has been dominated by by blacks and latinOs. He was there for the ratings.DUH! what would be the difference between regular boxing and the contender. If there were two latinos in the finals.HONESTLY WOULD HAVE WATCHED??? He has lost 3 fights in the contender already! when he got beat by the LATIN SNAKE AGAIN. A QUESTION FOR ALL MANFREDO FANS! IN WHAT LEGIT TOURNEY DO YOU SEE A LOSER COME BACK AND GET A SECOND CHANCE? HE BARELY BEAT GOMEZ THE SECOND TIME! WHO NORMALY FIGHTS NOT ONE BUT TWO WEIGHT CLASSES BELOW HIM! COME ON HE PUNCHED HIM SELF OUT DURING THAT FIGHT TOO!

    I have never heard so many racist snickers and remarks!AT THE BAR I WENT TO. a lesson to be learned is let your boxing do your talking for you! The snake earned his fans. they werent given by the media! YES HE KEPT WINNING! AND WILL CONTINUE WINNING!

    whos got more pride? latin america or rhode island!????? MUST BE PRETTY DISSAPOINTED WHEN YOU ANNOUNCE YOUR SELF THAT WAY AND LOSE 3 OF YOUR LAST FOUR FIGHTS. think about it! the way everthing was set up! MEANING FOR RATINGS. FREDO LOST DEAL WITH IT! SORE LOSERS! LOL!

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  44. Jamie

    yea we all no he lost but he didnt deserve to loose, it is people OPINIONS and u cant say opinions r wrong! no opinion is wrong

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  45. Charlotte

    jamie has got a point

    I no i am his cuzzen n all but he didnt deserve to loose he won far n square
    were u there at the fight??? Proberly not
    but if u were u wud of heared the boo’s of the crowd wen they pronoced the winner as mora

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  46. herbie

    whos champ lol! figures you would resort to name calling!lack of imagination! he lost deal with it! its not that bad. everyone looses maybe not as often but everyone does!I wont resort to cursing at you! we where here to talk boxing! its ok I aint mad at ya homey!If you dont have grounds for a discussion maybe you shouldnt be here!you need to cheer for the champ not the chump! lol! hahahaha. by the way champ is my dogs name. how ironic.

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  47. herbie

    you act like like am talking about you.

    hahaha are you mad! why are you so upset? you are angry all for nothing. cause fredo still lost.you thinkng he won wont give him a belt!ever! dont get al woman like emotional on me! he will be alright! just remember at one point the world thought that douglas and moorer where the best fighters in the world!

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  48. Jamie_ pissed off

    heres my yahoo messenger i.d. xbossybootsx if anyone wants 2 chat to me about contender, I.M me…….

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  49. Ross

    the website i had charlotte was http://www.manfredojr.com it said it was the official site! its fair to say the judges had a bad nite i mean cmon there is no way brinkley beat bonsante is there? if the fight was anywhere else other than la then mora would never have won! i still think peter has to get faster and fitter but mora wasnt half as effective as he was in the final! i cant rmember who said it but they were right when they said the contender has gone to mora’s head! peter was hungrier and deserved to win

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  50. Ross

    and herbie u say let your boxing do the talking? well thats what manfredo did and the biast judges still couldnt rid themselves of their tunnel vision

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  51. Ross

    id say 3 professional judges i wonder what the outcome would have in another state, thank you charlotte!

    CMON MANFREDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

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  52. herbie

    lol! this is what america is about people! having the right to have a different of opinion! sooooo far I have agreed and disagreed with some of you! THIS IS NOT A PETER MANFREDO WEBSITE! !!!!!

    I have been called a homophobe, an asshole, a dick, a comfused lil boy! I have disregarded it and continue to make point after point! read it over!

    ARE YOU MAD ABOUT THE WOMAN COMMENT! I wont take it back! if you dont like what I have to say then dont read it! if it irks you and gets you all worked up, more power to me! I guess thats what makes me a dick! my ability to disagree! it shows that maybe you cant handle others opinions! maybe you are the dick? I guess i am because you give me that power to irk you!

    ALL ABOUT THE BOXING!! LOL! IF YOU HAVE NO POINTS TO MAKE ABOUT THE FIGHT DO NOT WRITE ME OR SAY MY NAME! KEEP IT SIMPLE!

    IF YOU WANNA SET UP A SITE WHERE ALL YOU MANFRADO FANS WANT TO BE LEFT ALONE AND MOURN Him LOSSing. THEN DO SO! I WONT BOTHER YA! DONT EXPECT IT HERE!

    I respect manfredo as an athelete! I truly do! but come on do you really think he was born with that flat nose of his!

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  53. herbie

    Todd Says:
    October 31st, 2005 at 10:24 pm
    Snake needs to put away that damn Puerto Rican Flag he keeps wrapping himself in…as if it was puerto rico that gave him a million dollars. NO, IT WAS THE AMERICAN VIEWERS THAT MADE IT POSSIBLE!!!! Snake the dick

    now this guy is a dick!first of all i believe he is mexican! not puerto rican! yeah 2 words. huumm stereotypical? are all latinos puerto rican are you from ny or something?what do you think? I didnt know american was a race? would i be wrong if i called manfredo a mutt? and asked why he is wearing an italian flag????? arent we all american. in case you dont watch boxing every latino boxer just about does that! frankly I am a fan of appollo creed and rocky but they were real boxers!

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  54. herbie

    lol! maybe we should clone you like 6 times and make you judge the first fight! or maybe you would like to judge the gomez fight?
    on this websites everyone is an expert i love it!

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  55. Ross

    first of all, i aint american! and secondly, if u had read my earlier comment i said manfredo did not deserve to win the first fight! but in the rematch everyone in the arena bar the judges knew manfredo should have won! not just that but are u tryin to say herbie that brinkley beat bonsante aswell?

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  56. Jamie_ pissed off

    ah all dis rowing, i say put ya mobile fone numbers up n ring each other have it out lol , it will save time writing it all down lol, btw, DID BRINKLEY N BONASONTE HAVE A REMATCH? IF SO WHO WON COZ I DIDNT SEE IT

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  57. Ross

    yeh they did and bonsante was robbed! he blatantly won the match hands down and yet the dodgy judges said brinkley won strange eh?

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  58. herbie

    dude what are you talking about? I never said you where or where not american! what ever you consider your self is your buisness! I hope your happy with what ever you choose to be! I for one am proud to be an american! and i have not said anything about the bosante fight? thats the fight that you are talking about! not me!lol! by the way that wasnt even meant towards you! thats why i am replying to todd!

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  59. Jamie_ pissed off

    yea it seeems that the judges were obviously paied or something, wtf r they on if people keep saying that it woz the wrong deciscion…..

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  60. Ross

    u were goin on a rant about america a min ago! and i was merely sayin that im scottish not american! anyways didnt come on here to argue about a fight just wantefd to make a few points and got out of hand no offence made and none taken

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  61. Todd

    Herb’s got a point there Ross — he wasn’t even directing his snide comments toward you; it was me he was referring them to.
    So, TO HERB: Yes, I am from NYC, how’d you guess? And yes, I am being stereotypical—Latino, Mexican, Puerto Rican—spick—what’s the difference, really? I’ve lived around enough of them all to generalize with reasonable accuracy…I’ll even accept your use of “stereotype” in this case. Look, if Mora was walking down the street and you polled 50 white and/or black people, 48 would say he’s Puerto Rican because he looks and acts like one. The only people who pride themselves in using “Latino” versus “Puerto Rican” are the idiots who dare to be different, like the way Cubans tout themselves as “better than” Puerto Ricans. C’mon, give me a break. I’ll take your point about all boxers celebrating their flag, but it’s interesting how Mora has never once even acknowledged America as giving him the opportunity — or thanking the viewers. Just watch the end of both fights, he goes into one of those fits where he speaks a million miles a minute in his native language…reeba reeba…was it even Mexican? Look, I supported Mora from the beginning of The Contender and at one point had even gone on his website and downloaded three clips. I thought he had something positive to contribute to the sport, like raising the awareness of how books/intellect and sports can go together. But, the last fight showed me his “true” side with his uncalled-for remarks live in front of millions of viewers and his post-fight comments on his website. And what he said, in my mind, is typical, street-trashy spick talk, which, I associate with Puerto Ricans. So there you have it Herb, I’m just being honest. You’re right, at least we can disagree and call each other names and go on, as we are. I’m going to win you over to the I-hate-Mora side, all in due time! Maybe the next fight?!

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  62. herbie

    wow being from new york one of the most diverse states, i chose not to be as ignorant as you! this is now beyond boxing! its ok to admit it your a racist! I mean calling someone a spic is wrong! dont you see anything wrong with that. I know you will do it here where noone will ever know who you are. where you will remain a faceless coward. why dont you walk through spanish harlem yelling out what you just wrote! I will meet you at penn station! so i can see it!lol! you are a waste of skin!

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  63. Todd

    Herb, I’ll remain a faceless coward as long as spics, many of whom work in sweat shops (not their fault, by the way, seriously), stop being prejudice against whites, or are you going to tell me that that’s not true —that my half-sister, who so happens to be half Puerto Rican, works in a sweatshop and because she “looks” white, she has to constantly undergo crude remarks from her boss and speaking-speaking co-workers. She tells me all the time how her supervisors ask her things like, “Hey, how many cats do you own?” “Hey, how often do you take a bath?” “Hey Cringo!” “Did you buy a trailer?” “What up Crack-er?!” They outnumber her on the job, so she says little to nothing because she needs the money. Let’s face it Herb, you can tell me till your face turns blue that you like white people, that you have nothing against them, and maybe you even have some white friends. But, in the end, in the Puerto Rican mind, we are what we are, White. And Mora is who is he is, a wanna-be intellectual low-life Mexican.

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  64. Todd

    And by the way, I grew up in a puerto rican neighborhood and was the butt of jokes as well from puerto rican children AND their PARENTS and GRANDPARENTS — laughing calling the little white boy “Gringo gringo!” And you’re going to call me racist alone? The whole world is racist herb, wake up!!!

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  65. gaby

    look people this website is not about if you are white or not is about what do you think about the fight ok!
    i just want to aks something to todd are u raises to mexicans?
    just asking ok!

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  66. Todd

    Gabster—let’s just say that I am only racist in the sense that on occasion I acknowledge our racial differences. Let me give you an example to make my point. One of my good friends is black — let’s just say his name is Harold. So, the other day I was talking to Harold about my interest in moving to Vermont and I just got back from Vermont afer a two week vacation. He asked me why Vermont has mostly whites and few blacks. So you see Gaby, the point I’m making is this is “how” people think — If my black friend invites me to his birthday party and the party is at a bar in all-black neighborhood, I’m not sure I’d go because I’d think my car might get robbed or I’ll get jumped by boyz in da hood. I’m being serious. Now my friend Harold made a good point, there is less than 3% of blacks living in Vermont. Why? Well, probably many reasons. Some blacks don’t like living in a place that is really cold — many blacks prefer warm weather, which is why many are in the south. This is a cultural fact.

    There is a tendency for us to think in black-and-white terms—that’s just the way it is. Does that mean I’m a racist. I try not to be, but there are limits, like I tried to point out. Now if I can connect this issue to Sergio Mora, I’d say that you can tell that he has little to no white friends, it’s pretty obvious. Isn’t it funny how Mora assumed that Joey Gilbert on the Contender was being manipulative because he let Manfredo win the truck? Isn’t if funny how Mora didn’t call out anybody else for being manipulative?? That’s another instance of subtle racism Gaby — that doesn’t make him, or me, or anyone necessarily a “racist.” Hope this answers your question. I only wish that you’d start routing for Bonsanti with me…but oh I forgot, he’s white! LOL!

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  67. gaby

    look todd i was just asking because i wannet to know!
    i dont go to mora because he has a blood line that is mexican i go for him because he fights with his heart so does manfredo mora is a great person and a great boxer.One of my best friends is white she is realy cool i didnt realy get what you ment in the last few words but it seem like you were calling me raises to white if you are going to tell me im raises just say it strait out ok!
    no matter if mora wins or loses im still going to be his fan not like you first you were all like yeah manfredo should have won then you are making fun of him thats a true fan huh!

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  68. Todd

    Listen man, I’m a diehard Bonsanti fan — screw Mora, and Manfredo too! The rematch was a pillow fight, period! Mora had heart to win the million dollars, but now it’s gone, and I don’t support boxers with no heart. All Mora is talking about these days is how he and his family justt love going on vacations – to Europe and Hawaii – and how he has to do more of them. A boxer doesn’t bitch slap his opponent after the match. A boxer doesn’t post bulletins on his website calling into question everyone who disagreed with the judges of his fight, god forbid. (Funny how he never said anything about the god-awful judges of the Brinkley-Bonsanti fight that night) You know what a boxer is to me? Read:

    The Arena
    It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles,
    or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
    -Theodore Roosevelt

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  69. Charlotte

    guys we arnt suppose to b arguing on here

    but by the way hurbie peter had it hard wen he was young! his life has not gone smoothly from the rought streets Providence, RI he was jumped alot and had a broken nose at an early age then boxing came into his life!!!! If u think he is no good then y did he go into the contender with a record
    Wins 24 Looses 0 K0 10 at the
    Professional record ?????? answer that

    Him n snake are mates anyways i have no proberlem with snake winning he is a mate i think it just was a unfair judgement and the true winner is peter and most people will agree.

    I no Peter more than any one here and he is still confident with boxing 2 looses to the latin snake wont stop him.

    I do agree with u tho herbie on that mora did deserve to win the million yes he has had it hard to. Snake will always be a winner but so will eveery other boxer in the world!!

    And yes Jesse didnt deserve to win the was unfair judgement. But to be honest to u if ther boxers out of the contender saw this i bet they wud think how fukin stupid people r on here. This forum is not for racial comments or arguements it is a dissussion yes! Well then lets stop all the horrible comments and just tlk
    People will have the views about the fight and people will dissagree but that is up to them init!

    I just wanna say R.I.P Najai

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  70. Todd

    First of all, I’m no friend of Naji Turpin – the guy leaves behind a little baby girl…nothing is so bad to do yourself in like that. As for Manfredo, his career is one fight away from being over…he lost to Gomez, two weight classes below him, then twice to snake. Sure, he came back and showed he still had some juice, but this is what normally happens to boxers whose boxing career is about to end: they start losing the big fights. I like Manfredo, he’s got heart – I even feel bad that his career is ending on him. At least he’s making some good money from Contender now. If he’s smart, he’ll do some investments.

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  71. Herbie

    todd listen to your self! first of all I am half german half puerto rican! for you to say i dont like whites is another of your ignorant comments!

    you have no credibility here! nice stories about your sister and all! and making up! and reposting others comments whether they are true or not! stop trying to get the attention off your self!

    I HAVE NOT BROUGHT UP RACES OR SAID ANY RACIAL COMMENT TO YOU OR ANY OF THIS BOXERS.( you know what we were disscussing before you called him mora a spic) I am just telling you that racial slurs are wrong is not the right thing to do.

    I am live in hempstead ny and i am on both sides of the spectrum! where there is every gang you can name!

    ooooh back to your sister!I doubt that you sister really works at sweat shop! specially in ny! maybe she likes the attention she gets. I am only saying that because, it seems that she is not doing what she should be to get that level of respect every EVERY WOMAN DESERVES! I got one word for her lawsuit! duh! or come up with a better sob story!
    as far as manfredos nose it was a joke! he is a boxer duh! ITS COMMON FOR THEIR NOSES TO BE BROKEN.

    this is not a popularity contest, its ok if you dont like me cause i like a certain boxers! thats the beauty in this country! you might like me for a 1000 others. as far as todd is concern you are nothing and i dont take you serious. I know that calling people spics, is wrong! MAYBE YOU SHOULD COME TO MY TOWN AND i CAN SHOW YOU THAT WE ARE ALL NOT AS YOU THINK!

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  72. expert

    Sergio Mora so obviously won that fight. It wasn’t quite as comprehensive as the first fight but he still won comfortably, about five rounds to three. Teddy Atlas was just completely ignoring Mora’s domination of Manfredo in the last three rounds and was giving Manfredo points for laying back on the ropes and blocking. Manfredo is just a slow pedestrian fighter who, like Mora, has also let success get to his head. His Bernard Hopkins executioner impression was laughable.

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  73. Todd

    Herb: I got four words for you: I am a lawyer. Went to an ivy league law school too. Let’s just say that suing a private company is not so simple. You would be horrified to know the difficulty the courts have presented in the way of discrimination suits, your hair would stand up! Hey, where the hell are you going? I didn’t wanna contribute to driving the poor guy out…I actually like Herb, he’s a little screwed up, like all of us. We actually have something in common Herb and I: we’re both half German! respect, although those comments about my sis. Herb is just a little screwed up when it comes to certain things. I hop he hasn’t run off like a wuss though. He had some constructive ideas about boxing, and like he said, that’s why we’re in here in the first place. He also made a good point about Manfredo’s fat-ass nose. My only question is why isn’t Mora’s nose so god-freakin’ big? Mexican people have large, fat noses to begin with. What’s up with that?

    Expert made some great comments, all of which I agree with! I thought Manfredo looked stronger fighting Joey Gilbert and Alfonso Gomez. You’re right though, Manfredo is slow and what do you mean about his Bernard Hopkins’ Executioner impression? Are you referring to when Manfredo came out in the first fight against Mora and struck that tough guy pose in front of the gladiators?

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  74. gabby

    hey,
    i want to say sorry, this website is to talk about sergio and manfredo!
    todd not all of the mexicans have fat noses,
    sergio is not all the way mexican he is half mexican.
    a boxer is a person that fights with heart and loves what he does and if they fight only to win he is not a true boxer
    ex.
    gomes he went to the contender because he need it the money and because he loves boxing!
    love always gaby
    R.I.P najai you were a great person!

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  75. Todd

    Look…if you read what I said about the importance of boxers having heart above, which includes a poem about fire and heart, you would know I immensely respect boxers with it! True, Mora had heart; but he lost it recently. As far as Mora being Mexican, that’s what that racist “Herb” had said to me, so since he talks like he knows-it-all, I just assumed he knew. My fault. So, Mora is half-Mexican then. Look, Mexicans tend to have a wide nose, seriously, but not necessarily big noses, just a bit wide, that’s all. It’s like black people have an afro, or white people having triple chins; or puerto rican girls having a fat ass. Now that’s all I’m saying bout that, cause I don’t want to be called a racist or bigot or male chauvinist pig…know what I’m saying?

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  76. expert

    When I was referring to the Hopkins impression, I meant when Manfredo pulled his hand along his throat like Hopkins does. Looks like he’s slitting a throat. Hopkins gets away with those things, but Manfredo just looked stupid. I think he did it at the end of the sixth round.

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  77. Luis

    LMAO

    Peter had a good life. His father owned a gym and they sent their children to private schools. That shit cost money. Peter did not come from no hard ass streets. His father made Peter go to the GYM every fucking day after school and that is where peter trained and he also did his home work. Daddy would go pick him up. Federal Hill Rhode Island. We are talking beaches, swimming pools and fine dining restaurants.

    Hard life? Hard Streets? LMAO

    Hard nose father? Yes.

    Forced Peter into fighting? Yes.

    Sad? Yes!

    Dear Peter.

    To be the man.

    You got to beat the man!

    Can you dig it suckas!

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  78. Charlotte

    one thing is for sure luis
    peters father did not push peter into being a father he did come from a rough part of town! I think i shud no

    Yes petere had it all nice home, nice school, best boxer trainer 2 him but trust me he had it hard

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  79. Charlotte

    sorry that was written wrong

    peters father did not push peter into being a boxer just becuz his father owned a gym it was up to peter to join all my unkles are boxers and it runs in the family!!

    He had it hard when he was young not when he hit his teens.

    I ment to say he had it hard through boxing during his life alot harder than people think.

    But now he has alexis (his daughter) he does it 4 her

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  80. gabby

    manfredo had a hard or easy life but he is a great boxer!
    Charlotte: how old was manfredo when he stared boxing?
    Todd: mora is half mexican and so was miguel (from the contender)the only one that was all the way mexican was alfonso gomes!

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  81. Charlotte

    manfredo was around about 4-5 when he started hitting pads not fully boxing it was when he hit his early teens he started training every day after school and running b4 school

    Gabby is rite about the mexican thing. Gomez is the only full mexican. He is a wiked fighter and will make it to the top one day. Luv ya Gomez xxxmwha lol

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  82. Charlotte

    can any one tell me about the contender 2

    i av heared it will b half boys half girls

    I have asked manfredo and he sed he dnt no bout it yet ?????
    plus sly wont say out to him either

    does anyone no plz get bk to me

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  83. Todd

    Charlotte: Do you know much cash was Manfredo paid for the rematch? I know he was paid 250 grand for the loser of the first fight with Mora. There was no mention of the purse from ESPN or Contender folks.

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  84. Todd

    What I find truly obscene is you folks on here you degrade a boxer because he may not have grown up ghetto. I think it’s great that Manfredo’s father pushed him, picked him up, kept tabs on him, got him into boxing, even if Peter didn’t initially like it. He can leave boxing any time, but you see Peter learned the virtues of training hard, sleeping, eating right, being a father, etc. Mora looks like quite the momma’s boy — it’s obvious his mom raised her boys well. What the hell is wrong with a mom or dad who cares, who wants good things for their kids, who wants to live in a safe neighborhood, after from drugs and thieves and uneducated types. It reminds me of how that gangsta rap music requires that the rapper come from the “hood” or else he “ain’t legit.” Gimme a freakin’ break.

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  85. Todd

    And my 105 comment is directed toward that asshole LUIS! HEY LUIS, Lie down flat on your back, swing your legs above your head all the way over so that your toes are touching the floor, then lift your head off the floor, and BLOW YOURSELF!!

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  86. Charlotte

    good saying todd

    i will have to find out about the money 4 u
    i dnt actully get told about the finacial side of it lol

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  87. herbie

    todd is the peoples champ!

    are you picking up on my sarcasm?

    I said mora was mexican yes. as a lawyer you suck cause you have no listening skills! I did not say he was 100% mexican. I corrected you ignant comment! I am not yelling this is how i talk! not every latino is puerto rican like you assume, dumb ass! by the way why dont YOU just fall down and DIE! LOL!sure your sister wont care!she told me last night! I know you are no lawyer. most lawyers i know do not have the time to do this crap! unless you have no clients! by the way i am a doctor lol and i am telling you to get some mental help! my sister works in a sweat chop too. lol! she actually hired your sister cause she said she looks like she is dumb enough to take it!she makes levi jeans and she has to work naked you know to avoid any kind of theft!

    i am also a lawyer and a fire fighter and a porn star.( i am a money shot stand in)lol!

    I also went to an ivy league! lol! and community college! lol!

    I also invented the end botton on your cell phone! you know the red one!

    I agree with comment 105.

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  88. Ross

    hey charlotte it did work thanx apart from the main pic didnt come up! i dont know what is wrong there except maybe my comp doesnt have the right graphics card or somethin! has peter got any other fights lined up? tell him to get one arranged in scotland so i can see him live! LOL

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  89. Todd

    HERB I am a lawyer you jackass. Why do you suppose lawyers don’t have time to screw around on the net? I’m at my desk and occasionally I’ll take breaks. I do have clients because I work for a major law firm, which is doing quite well these days. I mean, how can anyone actually “prove” they’re anything on here, besides LUIS and YOU — LUIS blows himself while YOU lick between his toes.

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  90. Todd

    Charlotte: I was wondering whether Manfredo is getting more girls nowadays with all the TV attention. Does he have any bitches or ho’s on the side?

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  91. Todd

    Herb: Explain to me the difference between two landmark US Supreme Court decisions: the first, Marybury v. Madison, the second, McCulloch v. Maryland and its impact on the shaping of federalism and the balance of powers in the making and reshaping of the US Constitution. If you can’t, I will. How’s that?

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  92. Todd

    If you still don’t believe me, then I’ll tell you about my experience in law school, how you’re required to take courses like Civil Procedure, Crim. Law, Property, Legal Research and Writing, and Torts. Hey, do you know what are the principles of negligence to prove a tortuous wrong. Or if you like, I can differentiate Model Penal Code degrees of culpability between 1st and 2nd degree murder. Or I can tell you about how Federal Civil Procedure is used as a legal weapon in Products Liability cases, how the legal system civilly, is designed to obfuscate the civil making process. Help me out herb, I know you’re the lawyer, not me.

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  93. Todd

    You see herb, I just embarressed you…I just made you my bitch…how’s it feel doing what you do for a living?…if you even have a job.

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  94. Todd

    Herb, I bet you wouldn’t even know who the second president of the United States was without first running a search!! You dumb bastard you! LOL! (You’re probably going to come back and say, “Oh, what’s so important about knowing a fact like who the second president is…what advantage does that give me in life?” Answer…You will be less ignorant and in the process have a greater understanding in the people, events, and outcomes of those who significantly impacted the world, which made it possible for asswipes like you, sadly, to exercise the liberties you have, like typing on this internet! But you don’t see that…you’ll just whine, like a bitch!

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  95. Ross

    the funny thing is both of uz say uz are lawyers who work for big firms etc yet all uz seem to do is spend all of your time on here! pathetic really

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  96. bubba

    dear sore peter: you don’t know shit about boxing. if you have the balls come to providence for the re-match febuary 12, you will see the fight you say,”peter chickened out of”.peter will beat him wicked good and you will see what the rest of the world saw in his last fight, and the first one. they only let mora win because he is a good guy who wants, to buy a house for his mother. so i say join me in providence to see a real figt. ps:if you like calling him the “gay pride of providence : come say it to his face, or better yet come say it to mine and we will see who realy is gay!

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  97. Jamie_ pissed off

    god i came on ma aol n had like 26 messages all from ere…. anyway i love manfredo he has heart. love jessy more though

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  98. Charlotte

    todd: peter has not got anyt bitches on da side he only has 2 gilrs in his life
    1. his wife
    2. his daughter alexis

    p.s
    herbie n todd get a life n stop arguing

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  99. herbie

    ok I am no lawyer,I can admit it not a doctor either. The point but todd YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH! I LOVE BUSTING YOU CHOPS THATS ALL!Its easy! HAD YOU TYPING ALL YOUR LAWYER NONSENSE. That with a lil time online i could of answered! got your panties up in a bunch! lol!what ever it was fun!

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  100. gabby

    what is up with you guys why you keep on fighting?
    if you guys have something to say to each other just meet on some place and say it to each others face ok!
    charlotte: how old is manfredo right know?
    the thing i think is realy cool about manfredo is that his dad is all ways ther for him no matter if he loses or wins that is realy nice from a father to do.
    have you guys know when sergios next fight is going to be or manfredos!

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  101. herbie

    gabby sorry if this is annoying you! its actually beneath me. its just when people make ignorant RACIAL comments, for some reason I feel like i have to do or say something! you are in the right this is not the place for this. back to boxing has any of the fighter announce their next fight?

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  102. Todd

    GABBY IS NOW HERB’S BITCH! Gabby, I can’t believe how you gayly agreed with Herb to stop your trash talking, like he’s the website bouncer or something!…And regardless of what you say that you could simply use the internet to answer the questions I asked you above…”I don’t think so, you F’N MORON!” That’s like going on-line to find out the proper procedure for a liver transplant and then giving the instructions to HERB and asking him to perform it versus going to a surgeon! You really, truly are a DUMBASS, which traces back to those DUMBASS remarks you made about the “glass being half empty and half full,” remember? Now, listen up GABBY, be my bitch and blow Herb…I SAID DO IT RIGHT NOW YOU DUMB BASTARD YOU!!! THEN USE SOME OF HIS PUBIC HAIR AS DENTAL FLOSS!!!
    .

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  103. Todd

    By the way, thanks for the follow-up Charlotte about Peter’s prize. I don’t think you’re going to find out about it because Peter probably has instructions from the show not to say anything. I’m guessing he made $100 grand and snake made $250K

    And I really liked Manfredo when he did the Anthony Hopkin’s Executioner thing making Mora look like his bitch!
    GO MANFREDO!!!!
    GO BONSANTI!!!!

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  104. Todd

    DEAR SORE PETER needs a real shit kicking over calling Manfredo “Gay.” Sore Peter, I’d love to meet you with BUBBA in Providence to send you back home with GABBY’S small wee wee shoved high up your left nostril, you little chicken BITCH!

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  105. gabby

    look todd im not someones bitch just because i sayd if you guys had something to say do it infront of each others face doesnt mean anything!
    im not calling you any names so pleace can you stop caling me bitch, first you were all like manfredo had a skirt all making un of him and know you are all like “go manfredo” just because i agreed with someone thta is not oyu doent mean im ther bitch!

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  106. Todd

    You need to read over how agreeable you were with Herbie — I call that being a bitch, I’m sorry, just callin’ it like I see it. As far as Manfredo, my position stands from the very first posting I wrote — I liked Mora and was glad to see him win the Contender —but, he annoyed the hell out of me with his WUSSY remarks about Manfredo “being a sore loser.” He also wrote some negative things on his website, which is when I called him a spick because that’s just wrong to bash an opponent you lost a fight to. He bitched about having the flu the week before, yada yada bitch cry baby.
    GO MANFREDO AND BONSANTI!!!

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  107. gabby

    todd i dont want to have any problems with you or with anyone ok!
    and can oyu pleace stop caling me a bitch thanks!

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  108. Charlotte

    todd and herbie just need to tlk about there differences but not on here this is to tlk about peter and sergio!!

    NOT A PLACE 2 ARGU!

    U are 2 grown men not 5 year olds
    thanxs lol

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  109. *jazmine* (hurbieF*ck)

    MEMBER ME??….well i think everyone whos dissen peter needs to bring it. ill take u. knock u out! MANFREDOS THE CHAMP. I SAID IT AND ITS DONE. WHO WANTS TO START AN AGUMENT? C’MON U LITTLE PUSSEY ASS BITCHES.

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  110. *jazmine* (hurbieF*ck)

    ACTUALLY I DONT WANNA COME BACK TO THIS WEB SITE SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO WRITE ME , I MIGHT READ IT MY EMAIL IS ITSALLU254@YAHOO.COM. OH AND I THINK SOME OF YOU KINDA NEED TO GET A LIFE, YA KNOW WHAT IM SAYIN. LIKE GET OFF THE COMPUTER N GO DO SOMETHIN WITH YOUR LIFE. YA KNOW YA KNOW? PEACE OUT MA NIGGAZ. AND DONT TALK ABOUT PETER OR SERGIOS FAMILY N PERSONAL SHYT LIEK WHAT THEY LOOKE LIKE N STUFF CUZ THAT AINT GOT SHIT TO DO WITH BOXING N WHOS THE BETTER BOXER. SERGIO OR PETER AINT GONNA GIVE A SHYT, THEY JUST GONNA LOOK AT THIS SHYT N BE LIKE DAMN THESE BITCHES REALLY NEED TO GET A LIFE.YOU GUYS ARE JUST PLAYIN URESELFS.

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  111. Charlotte

    well sed jazmine

    Peter is the best along wid sergio no1 is better there the same to me!!

    Who gives a shit if one looses there just gonna learn from there mistakes init realli.

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  112. Todd

    Jazmine is the bomb!! Now there’s somebody whose personality I like all ready, unlike that gabby or herb! Actually, I’d like to put GABBY AND HERB in spring dresses and have them mud wrestle to raise money for the next fight when Manfredo busts Mora’s head open and he needs a lobotomy! CHARLOTTE: If you read above, you’ll see that gabby and herb started in with me…they’re like little babies and then they back off when I get steaming, ya know what I’m saying? I have stood by what I said from the beginning: Mora is a good fighter, but he throws pillow punches. Manfredo is an overall better boxer, but he just bombed the first fight because he was overtrained. The second fight he won as far as I’m concerned. Gabby, Herb, and me agree on this. So, it goes to show you we have more in common than our differences. I don’t think I can be friends with HERB though, he’s sneaky. But GABBY is a nice guy…we’ve had our difference, but I can deal with him Mano-e-Mano.

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  113. Todd

    HOW’S THIS FOR A WILD SUGGESTION GUYS/GALS: I propose that Mora and Manfredo have a closed cage bout, no gloves and kicking allowed, till the death!!! And they would be permitted to wear steel-tipped workboots! Ouch! Listen up, this would settle the score once and for all and sell hundreds of millions of pay-per-view viewing!!! THINK ABOUT IT!!! The winner of the bout gets to keep the other’s wife and a million dollars!
    (This sounds crazy, but consider the gladiators in Ancient Rome…so I say we start promoting it!!!)

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  114. Todd

    Okay Charlotte — here’s what we need u to do for us!: Contact Peter ASAP and tell him we want to promote a fight we can call, “Settling the Score…Mora-Manfredo III: The Gladiator Death Match 2005″ — 50 million dollar cash prize and winner take all — walks away with the other’s wife and kids!!

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  115. sexc jamie

    peoples need to grow up, n get off da damn computer, how can u argue over the fukin computer…. hahaha, jokers, bet ya’s shit ya self if ya had a row like dis in real life shit.

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  116. Todd

    ARTURO IS THE MAN!!!! Arturo, that’s exactly what I was saying!!!…we’re all racist sometime…it’s HERB AND GABBY that just doesn’t get that point…I got them saying I’m a racist pig this and that…problem is, you can get along with all people but still have beefs with races every now and then…and that’s all right…that’s what I was saying. CHARLOTTE! GET MANFREDO TO DO THIS CAGE MATCH!! C’mon, please?!?!

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  117. gabby

    hey,
    todd i know i can be raices sometimes but what you sayd seem realy raices to me but it was my bad then, i want to say im sorry i took it the wrong way ok!i like what you sayd about moras and manfredos fight i would like to see them in action again!

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  118. Charlotte

    4 people who are just comming into the conversation sayin all u lot on here need to fukin stop arguin and ur all mother fockers if u have noticed not every one has been arguin am i rite??

    Manfredo and mora might still fight in the future but so mite gomez he still wants a rematch lol

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  119. Todd

    Charlotte…chill out girl, c’mon now…you’re supposed to be tough and firm with us boyz, but u don’t halfta go cussing on us now girlfriend! :-)

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  120. Todd

    QUESTION FOR DISCUSSION: Assuming the next fight is MORA-GOMEZ, Who do you think would win and why? I like Gomez because he has heart, but if i had to base it on their performance during the Contender, I’m going to go with Mora because did you all see Gomez’s face after the MANFREDO-GOMEZ REMATCH?? He got bitch-slapped pretty bad. He’s also much lighter than Mora, isn’t that right? Gomez has a stinging punch though…and he bitch-slapped Jesse Brinkley pretty good I thought.

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  121. Charlotte

    i wasnt trying to get at any one i was just putting my point across ….. sorry.

    With Gomez and Mora i think personally knowing them both that it wud b one hell of a fight and wud b worth going to c.

    The winner i wud bet on is mora he is a harder hitter, not sayin gomez cnt hit lol trust me he can!

    Gomez marks easily on his face where most other boxers dnt it is wierd to try an explain. When he fort peter the 2nd time we went to c him after the fight to give our support and love, but even then the marks on his face looked realli bad.

    I lov gomez like he was my own brother and i am privilaged to no him so well, but it wud be one more point on his record for a lose.

    lv ya

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  122. Przemek

    Hi. I have to say that the fight was good although the judges decision was just stupid. I am not great Peter fan but this is one of my favourite boxers. If you guys/gals would see all of his fights you would probably know that his career is not ending. He is a great boxer and i belive he can be one of the box legends. The most important thing that i want to say is that i congratulate You a great fight Peter and I thank you for it. I belive you are The Real Champ.
    PS. Sorry for my english but I’m from Poland and i study it since not long.

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  123. Todd

    PREZEMEK: I like your comments, but I have to disagree with them, big time. Look, Manfredo lost to Gomez who was two weight classes under him. Then Jesse Brinkley put up a decent fight with him, and BRinkley isn’t even ranked! Sure, I give Manfredo credit, he came back to avenge loss with Gomez and marked up his face nice and good…but he lost TWICE to Mora…and Mora isn’t ranked either…look at the records of the guys Mora fought…they’re all losers, really. Once a fighter starts winning/losing back and forth, it’s a sign he’s slipping. Manfredo didn’t look strong in the last two fights, not enough any way. I give him three more loses, and his career is over. You can’t be ranked “third in the world,” and go losing to a guy two weight classes below you…and twice to a nobody like Mora…not to say Mora isn’t a decent fighter, he just wasn’t “third in the world.” Until now.

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  124. jenny begum

    hi peter manfredo deserved the title and we all know it. Sergio is a divkhead who is big headed. Peter manfredo is the best and always will be sergoi needs 2 get a life. so what if manfredo did not win in my eyes he is the winner good luck in life jr jenny

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  125. Charlotte

    well peter is my cuzzen so i know the whole lot of dem really. lol

    All the familys and the boxers are realli close so i get to c the often

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  126. Todd

    I read these comments about Gomez being the greatest fighter in the world and I begin to wonder whether I was watching a different boxer…look, Gomez got his BLOCK taken off by Manfredo, and like CHARLOTTE said, he bruises easily. Mora’s reach alone is too long for him to handle. Gomez has to fight on the inside, which will be impossible with Mora slipping and sliding and changing styles every other second. IF GOMEZ AND MORA FIGHT…GOMEZ WILL GET KNOCKED OUT…Gomez tires fast too and is vulnerable against fighters with endurance. Mora is just the man TO TAKE HIS F’N BLOCK OFF! PEACE! I think ANTHONY BONSANTI should fight Mora — Bonsanti is the most passionate boxer in that Contender group, no question.

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  127. Todd

    The Arena
    It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles,
    or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”

    GO BONSANTE!!!!!!!

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  128. Todd

    LADIES AND GENTLEMAN: PLEASE READ!! READ THE BULLSHIT THAT SERGIO MORA PUT UP ON HIS WEBSITE…IS THE BIGGEST WHINER YOU HAVE EVER SEEN OR WHAT? …He’s bitching even though he won!!! Asshole that he is…

    MORA VS MANFREDO 2: Post Fight Comments
    October 17, 2005

    First things first, for those wondering, I received 29 stitches on my left eye. And YES! It was 100%, totally and positively a head butt. After analyzing the fight, around half way into the first round, we barely “grazed” heads, it didn’t bleed instantly, but if you see from my pawing at my eye I knew I was cut. I gestured towards the referee to catch his attention on it, but there was no break. I think that is when we exchanged punches and I finally began to bleed profusely. I could understand how it was confused for a punch. But thank God the doctor didn’t stop the fight, because at that point, Manfredo would of won.

    I give a lot of credit to Peter Manfredo Jr. fighting a good and poised fight. He was strong and sharp and came to win. I regret the fact I didn’t close the show the way I should of, or planned, but I also didn’t plan to get cut as ugly as I did in the first round. I hope my fans understand how hard it is to fight when your eye is clogged with blood. Although I fought a tough fight, I was too anxious to fight a smart one. In the world of boxing, cuts like mine don’t get the opportunity to continue. I was fighting impatient and it showed. Not once was I ever hurt by any punches, and although punch stats showed Manfredo threw and “supposedly” landed more punches, after watching the video, I am convinced I easily landed the more effective punches. (Which is what judges score.) This was not a Snake performance and I apologize for that. I blame that on the cut and the flu I had barely gotten over the week before. Either way, thank God, the outcome of the fight was a great one. I retained the title and am still undefeated. And unbelievably, over 10,000 people came out to support us at the Staple Center and ESPN’s ratings were higher than ever.

    For all you who have been supporting me and The Contender thank you from the bottom of my heart. Whether you are excited about the outcome of my last fight or not, know that when I fight, I will give the viewers my best performance possible. And for my Snake Pit, maaaan, I will bleed for you guys any day. God bless everyone. See ya’ as soon as I heal up! I promise…

    SERGIO “The Latin Snake” MORA

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  129. Charlotte

    comming bk to the USA 2morro Cnt wait lol

    Gonna go c Peter and family and the new baby! YEY

    I rewatch the match the other day and it wasnt a head but it was a punch!!

    Cya l8er xx

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  130. Charlotte

    hey u guys im in RH at the mo lol

    loving it here its gd to b bk im over here 4 5 months now
    at the moment im baby sitting lol

    did any one see amir khan fight??

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  131. Charlotte

    This is a conversation after the rematch between sergio and peter

    Sergio:“You think you won that fight?,
    Peter:‘yea I won that fight,’ Get the fuck out of here,’ ‘You know you didn’t win that fight,
    Sergio:‘yea I won that fight,’
    Peter:‘FUCK YOU, you didn’t win that fight.’”

    Mora told the paper, “I’m not going to lie, the first three rounds were competitive, I might have even given them to him,” Mora said. “I couldn’t see so I had to change my game plan. …But I won this fight. I hurt him, and he never hurt me.”

    Manfredo disagrees, saying, “Yes I felt robbed. I knew I was taking a chance fighting him in his backyard but I was willing to do it but I talked to the Contender people as long as I knew I could get a fair decision. I felt I beat him in every single category.”

    Mora told the paper, “I’m not going to lie, the first three rounds were competitive, I might have even given them to him,” Mora said. “I couldn’t see so I had to change my game plan. …But I won this fight. I hurt him, and he never hurt me.”

    By the way jesse now has the best boxing coach i think lol

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  132. Todd

    Great news Char…thanks for sharing…I thought I saw Manfredo mouth F’U to Mora in the ring…the first three rounds were definitely going in Manfredo’s corner.

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  133. jenny begum

    peter is the wnner of the contender and the re-match and we all know that. peter was robbed by the fag sergio.petermanfredo is the best and will always remain the best good luck in life.

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  134. Charlotte

    lol hey u guys
    aint been on here in a while lol
    not much has been sed im in america at the moment at peter manfredo’s gym lol

    Alfonso gomez is one hell of a boxer lv him loads
    and i dnt believe juan de le rosa has been on here

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  135. Todd

    Juan — look, your boy Mora won the first fight hands down…no question about it. And people who doubt Manfredo lost that first fight, watch it again, or even twice, and you’ll see by the end of the fight he’s barely hanging on. His punch is having no effect by the 6th round, almost as if he’s in slow motion. And at the end of the fight, the referee had to walk Manfredo back to his corner because he looked like he was about to collapse. (By the way, I was routing for Manfredo that fight).

    Manfredo lost the rematch by a round, period. Watch that fight over a couple times, and you’ll see Mora really give him a beating for ONE SOLID ROUND. This is where I think Mora gained enough points to put him over the top. Just be honest Manfredo fans, and I’m one of them, HE LOST BOTH FIGHTS. MANFREDO LOOKED LIKE A MUCH IMPROVED FIGHTER THE 2ND FIGHT, BUT IT STILL WASN’T ENOUGH. JUST BECAUSE MORA GOT CUT THE FIRST ROUND DOESN’T MEAN HE LOST THE FIGHT. IT’S BASED ON A POINT SYSTEM FOLKS. PLEASE WATCH THE TAPE AGAIN.

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  136. Todd

    I guess this is what makes boxing such a bullshit sport, it’s the only sport where people don’t accept the point system, unlike a football or basketball game, where the points are clearly seen and registered. The sport of boxing needs to find some way to register punches electronically, so as they are landing people can see it register, that way we won’t have morons in here bitching about the decisions. (NOW I’LL SAY THIS, BONSANTI OUT AND OUT DEFEATED JESSE BRINKLEY — BRINKLEY LOOKED LIKE A LITTLE FAT PIG FOR THE REMATCH — Did he swallow his wife the night before? Fat ass bitch.

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  137. sexc jamie

    oit, wot u chatting on about jessey, thought u said about the ‘morons on here bitching’, its exactly wot u r doing! jus shutup mate. grow up, and get a life, the first part of ur message woz alright thou. latas

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  138. Todd

    What I haven’t been able to understand since I found this website is, why does everyone in here sound so ghetto? Let’s take SEXC JAMIE, for instance. What the F’n hell is he talking about? He sounds way too ghetto…like some street trash, or piece of trash from Harlem. I mean, at least when I read entries from my buddy GABBY and that other bitch HERB, they made some sense. The rest of the folks in here are just dumb bastards. I can’t understand what the hell anyone else is saying?! Is it just me?? Didn’t you guys take writing in elementary school? Don’t you know what it means to write a complete sentence? Holy Christ all ready, will somebody say something that makes f’n sense??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  139. Todd

    You know what, you bitches are wasting my time — you don’t want to talk boxing, you want to talk ghetto, street, gangsta trash –MY ADVICE: Go to the public library and get some books on elementary writing skills. Then, come back to this site three years from now, and maybe I’ll stop back to see if I can f’n understand your wussy-ass writing.

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  140. Todd

    I can’t even imagine that any one in here can understand what the hell I’m saying, because I write in complete sentences and all you sorry bitches write like 1st graders. Example: “Yo knw wht i’m sa’in bout M’fredo, he won dat fght beat mora ass, whatup cuz, knw b? mfkr btch mora lost, yo no what im sain?”

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  141. sexc jamie

    lol, first of all todd, i am a girl. u sexist shit, anway i am from england not harlem so dnt assume, lol… sort ya self out

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  142. Todd

    Being from England you think you’d take pride in your country’s rich language. Well, at least this time I was able to actually understand your female ass, in terms of what you said — seriously, stop being so don’t god damn lazy when it comes to writing a few lines, especially so the rest of us can understand what the f’k you’re saying. You say, “moaniing about “nuttin” You sound like some bar rag dumb ho, and assuming your good looking, I’m not so sure I’d have sex with you if you were naked and started talking with that cheap manner of speech.

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  143. Todd

    HEY BEANER,
    If you read my comments from previous entries here, you’d know that I’m racist, sometime. I admit that I would have rather Manfredo won since he’s half-Italian and so am I. But more importantly, you make a good point, many AMERICANS who watched the REMATCH did find it disturbing that some MEXICANA from East LA – a piece of dog shit, like you no doubt – was declared the winner. As far as all Mexicans, I agree with you that some Americans believe the Mexican stereotype, and that’s unfortunate. And you’re right, it’s no surprise that jackasses like you are going to find some sick reason to get frustrated by that and celebrate SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 and the loss of over 3000 INNOCENT AMERICANS, whose only crime was having the desire to make a better life for themselves by going to work every day. Isn’t that what Mexicans desire, a better life? Isn’t that what we all want? a better life? Despite your frustration with racism in America, I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ALL AMERICANS WHEN I SAY THAT I’M OFFENDED BY YOUR REMARKS ABOUT 911 VICTIMS. How can you stoop down so low to celebrate murder of innocents? AND BY THE WAY, THERE WERE MEXICANS IN THOSE TOWERS TOO. You know what, you’re worse than a piece of shit, you’re SCUM. We live in a sick world folks. I’M CALLING ON ALL PEOPLE VISITING THIS SITE TO IGNORE THIS CHARACTER BEANER. HE’S SCUM OF THE EARTH.

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  144. Todd

    You know something, it’s sad to think that a jackass like you actually has a very slim sense (however distorted) of US history and some of the real social problems confronting America now. As for natural disasters, well, I see you’re having fun selectively celebrating Katrina, as if I’m to become angry because you’re a silly fool. Decadent? I agree. Necrophilic? Sure, Americans do have a fascination with death. But, I’m not sure it’s so different in Me-he-ko or any other foreign land your black ass has visited. People are savages — it’s the human condition, as it is you are a moron without compassion and a perspective to think to larger universals that bring people together, not push people apart.

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  145. sexc jamie

    lol, todd, ur obviously a very silly, bored boy and have nothing else better to do than moan on here. Can you just stop. lol.god dam. and about my rich language? whats that about…. where rare you from?

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  146. sexc jamie

    and by da way, what the fuk u chatting about, ‘You sound like some bar rag dumb ho’ and u said dat i am assuming im good lukin? Do u know me?
    Have u ever seen me?
    NO, thats what i thought.

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  147. Todd

    Dear SexC Jamie: The truth of the matter is, I think you’re sexy and smart and…well, I really want to go on a date with you…YEAH RIGHT!!!!! Of course I haven’t SEEN YOU, but from what I’ve read YOU DON’T SOUND SO SMART! So ru good looking? Doubt it. I would put my money on it that you are overweight by at least 20-30lbs. and wear really tight-ass jeans, but the fat from your stomach and lower back are hanging over…and you wear mid-cut tight shirts!!! Big boobs, but fat as hell all round! YUCK!!!! lol!

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  148. Beanner Jihad

    and again i musth repeat,i bet you losse all your cases,you say you are racist sometimes is like say you are christian sometimes,or democrat sometimes,or republican sometimes,or straight some times(dont wanna now if you are gay sometimes)lol,dedicate to other thing dude.

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  149. Beanner

    and again i musth repeat to you todd,i bet you losse all your cases,you say you are racist sometimes is like say you are christian sometimes,or democrat sometimes,or republican sometimes,or straight some times(dont wanna now if you are gay sometimes)if you are not in you are out dude,dedicate to other thing cuz your intelect dosent give for much seriously.

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  150. sexc jamie

    todd,i am not ugly, if u want to c a pic of me just ask, and what da fuk, u bet im overweight, wear tight asss jeans…. lol…. dats how sterotypical u really r. u judge me on da way i type! get a fukin life. prick

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  151. Todd

    ATTENTION EVERYBODY: I want to make a public apology to SEXC JAMIE: She lives up to her screen name, trust me… she’s a very sexc gal and she looks like the kind of girl that if you mess with her, she’ll slap you! So, I’m saying here and now, I suggested a few inappropriate things about sexc jamie being unattractive, and her photo showed me DEAD wrong, she looks great! Sorry again.

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  152. Todd

    By the way Beaner, my life is not “lifeless.” I’m reading some great books right now. May Sarton’s “Plant Dreaming Deep;” Martin Heidegger’s “Being & Time;” Sri Aurobindo’s “Life Divine,” Robert Frost’s “Complete Book of Poems,” and a book on the American Revolution called “Angel in the Whirlwind.” But Mr. Jihadi wouldn’t know anything about reading, or philosophy, or history, because he’s too busy assembling bombs and cheering on fellow asshole jihadis. Get a life dude.

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  153. Todd

    Since you mentioned Aurobindo, here’s my challenge. In four-six sentences (your own words), summarize Sri Aurobindo’s Life Divine and post it on here. I’m assuming you’ve read the entire book which amounts to 1109 pages (hardcover). Next, define for me the term, “psychic inflation” and “solipsism.” These terms relate directly to you, you just don’t know it yet. That’s not asking much, sir. (And by the way, you mean “The Prince” by Nicolo Machiavelli. If you read Machiavelli, then I’m sure you’ve also read Plato’s Republic and Aristotle’s Politics, right? You might even have delved into Rousseau’s Principles of Inequality and Montesquieu’s Spirit of the Laws. And if you really studied the notion of “power” in the realm of political theory, you must have read John Rawls’ Theory of Justice.) Fill me in brother.

    P.S. You probably heard Sergio Mora mention that he read “Art of War” by Sun Tzu “twice,” on The Contender. I’ve read that one two.

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  154. GabriellaI'mabitch

    Todd. I read some of what you had to say. listen, you are right.that bean guy is a fucking prick wacko. U make sense, he sounds like a stupid asshole saiying 9-11 was a beautiful thing and dat he hopes more americans are killed… Hey…little bean… prick…i live in america you scumbag and i dont appreciate your fucking remarks this/that…so cut the shit now or i’ll report you to the authorites. as 4 sergio & peter, peter won that #2 fight stop bullshit people. i’m not hearing shit bout no head but bull. sergio got his asskickin, bottomline. todd, where u from in US?

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  155. Arturo

    todd u seem like a very well educated person and a well read one as well. im a fighter myself to and since i seen the contender and seen that sergio was also an intelligent person ive been trying to keep on my reading and stuff but i dont kno that many good books or which ones are good neither i read the art of war and yes becuase i seen that sergio read it lolz and i read other books as well but not that many and i was wondering if u could list a few books that you yourself think are worth reading and would get a lot from even though u learn from every book, the ones that have impacted you the most and ya thats pretty much it thanks.

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  156. Todd

    Hey Arturo — Good luck to you in boxing…It’s my favorite sport and I always admire guys like you who are actually out there giving the sport a shot. I hear you about Sergio — he’s a really inspiring kind of guy; he’s a great boxer AND he has an passion for learning, like you and me, and that’s a beautiful thing. What I can tell you is, if you follow this rule, you will learn alot and become a better thinker. Try to read a little every day…even if it’s only for 30 minutes. This forms a good reading habit, and you’ll be able to read more books over time.

    There are certain books that I think ALL people should read at some point in their lifetime, and these books are known as “Classics.” You can pick them up at any public library. Start with these, because they hit on different subjects, from spirituality to law to politics to philosophy. Do you have a favorite subject by chance? These books had the biggest impact on my life and changed the way I see the world and myself. They are fairly easy to read, and you’ll get alot out of them. NOVELS/FICTION: (MY FAVORITE IS…***”Jonathan Livingston Seagull” by Richard Bach.*** “Brave New World” by Aldous Huxley. Edgar Allen Poe: “Tell Tale Heart,” “The Cast of Amontillado,” “The Pit and the Pendulum.” Poe also has a great short poem called “Annabel Lee;” “1984″ by George Orwell; “The Old Man & the Sea” by Ernest Hemingway. PHILOSOPHICAL NOVELS: “Anthem” by Ayn Rand; “The Fountainhead” and “Atlas Shrugged” also by Ayn Rand (big book, worth it though!). PHILOSOPHY: “The Apology” in “The Last Days of Socrates” book by Plato. “Letter from a Birmingham Jail” Martin Luther King; “Equus” by Peter Firth.

    Arturo — let me know if you like anything you see here — if not, I can recommend you something else…I’d be glad to help. Good luck to you in your journey of knowledge!

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  157. Todd

    Chill out Slow Ass’z, we were just talkin’ books for a minute. Who do you think won the rematch…Peter “The Pride of Providence” Manfredo, right?

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  158. Jimbo

    Todd: Everybody here thinks you are SILLY, DUMB, STUPID, IGNORANT and a BIG LIAR…. I’m sorry for you….

    Peter is a good boy and a good boxer but think he´ll never be world champion…. Gomez and Mora are good boxers (but they´re not of the best in the world right now) and both of them defeat Peter… And probably Peter would lose to 4 or 5 of the “contenders”…. I hope we’ll get a surprise and one or more of them become champions of the worlds or at least have very good careers….

    I saw Peter lose clearly with Gomez and Mora the first time they met…. and then won closely to Gomez and lose closely to Mora in the rematchs…. We can read the opinions of analyst of boxing, and it’s unanimous that Mora won the second fight 77-75….

    Have a nice day

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  159. Todd

    JIMBO: I like your comments about the rematch, although I disagree. Manfredo threw AND landed more punches, bottom line.

    Please don’t “feel sorry” for me JIMBO; I’m doing very well in my life academically and professionally. Trust me. I am, however, a bit perplexed by your remark that I’m a “BIG LIAR.” In regards to…?? That I’ve read all those books I listed for ARTURO? JIMBO, please tell me you’re joking. If you like, I will chat on Yahoo Messenger with you and then we’ll see how dumb, stupid, ignorant I am. Just keep in mind that I’ll also be getting a chance to see whether YOU are the one who is dumb, stupid and ignorant. :-)

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  160. Jimbo

    http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/5000764

    “1. Contestants from the first season of “The Contender” returned to the airwaves this weekend, as ESPN broadcasted the rematch of May’s $1 million finale between the winner, Sergio Mora, and Peter Manfredo Jr. My appetite was hankering for quality, with the hope that these fighters had improved their crafts so as to shine in their returns to the grand stage. Instead, I was left unsatisfied by uninspired and unrefined performances, bored beyond belief.

    2. In the main event, my scorecard read like it did five months prior: With Mora the victor. Despite a markedly better showing by Manfredo, I saw less reason for controversy than others were espousing, mainly due to my inability to see the Rhode Island resident land clean, effective punches.”

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2192871

    The judges score the bout 77-75 for Mora, 77-75 for Manfredo, and 77-75 for Mora, the winner by split decision.

    MaxBoxing scores the bout 77-75 for Sergio Mora.

    Punches: Mora, 417 of 133 (32 percent); Manfredo 594 of 180 (30 percent). (It counts more than quantity, the quality of punches).

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    The Booing: Manfredo, Jr. explains why the crowd began booing after the results were announced.

    “You know I am still kind of confused about that, after the fight I asked Mora, ‘You think
    you won that fight?, he said, ‘yea yea, I won that fight,’ I replied, ‘ Get the fuck out of here,’ and that’s when I started hearing all of the boo’s. I thought it was because of that.” I said to him, ‘You know you didn’t win that fight, and he replied, ‘yea I won that fight,’ so I said ‘FUCK YOU, you didn’t win that fight.’”

    P.D. NOT interested in waste my time with guys like you

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  161. Todd

    JIMBO:
    PLEASE DEFINE THE TERM, “QUALITY OF PUNCHES” FOR ME. ALSO, PLEASE JUSTIFY THE 50 PUNCHES THROWN BY MANFREDO OVER THE 50 NOT THROWN BY MORA WERE NOT ENOUGH TO PUT MANFREDO OVER THE TOP, AND THEN PLEASE TELL ME WHY THIS CONCEPT OF “QUALITY OF PUNCHES” EVEN MATTERS, GIVEN MANFREDO THREW AND LANDED 50 ADDITIONAL PUNCHES? Even assuming that 50% of those extra punches thrown by Manfredo were not “clean and effective” (i.e. quality punches), Manfredo STILL threw and landed more times, overall.

    I really don’t care that Mora’s accuracy was 2% higher than Manfredo’s, because the bottom line is he outpunched him, and even the commentators had the fight going for Manfredo. WE ALL SAW HOW HORRIBLE THE JUDGES HAD BEEN SCORING THE FIGHT FOR JESSE BRINKLEY, WHO CLEARLY LOST THAT FIGHT AGAINST ANTHONY BONSANTI. EVEN MARK BURNETT WAS STUPIFIED ABOUT THE DECISION.

    C’mon Jimbo, give me a break.

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  162. gabby

    HEY IM BACK!
    I MISS THIS WEB-SITE!
    WE ALL KNOW THAT MANFREDO WON THE FIGHT BUT INFRONT OF MANY PEOPLES EYES SERGIO WON!
    MANFREDO IS ONE THE OF THE BEST BOXER I’VE EVER SEEN BUT IN THE CONTENDER HE DID REALY SHOW IT!
    LIKE WHEN HE BOXE AGAINST GOMES HE DIDN’T BOXE WELL BECAUSE EVERY ONE THOUGT THAT GOMES WAS THE WEAKEST ONE BUT HE SHOW THEM WRONG!
    IM NOT SAYING THAT GOMES IS WEAK HE CAME IN 3 PLACE WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY IS THAT MANFREDO DIDN’T GIVE IT ALL!
    WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK!

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  163. rulo

    i’m a boxer and i think that sergio mora is the real CONTENDER ’cause he’s very inteligent and he has a lot of heart and he loves his mom and that is something that i apreciate

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  164. @#$%

    umm well yeah i think sergio is full of shyyt, and his mom is scary as hell, so im not down with that. and peter is the real champ fa sho.

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  165. @#$%

    u kno wwhat sergio aint full of shyt im sorry i take that bake and his mom aint scary, i take that back , shes pretty for a moma. ya know. but i just think peter is the best fighter. i mean i take that back i know hes the best fighter. standin right next to mohammed ali.

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  166. Todd

    GABBIE: Well, welcome back…I hear you on needing a break…I think I could use one too! I’ve had my share of battles in here since you left…this guy Jihadi (above) likes celebrating September 11 and cheering on Osama — a real whack if you know what I mean…but, he says he gets a lot of “American girls” where he lives in Cancun. Like he’s a rock star or something.

    Anyway, I think @#$ is out of his f’n mind. What are you talking about Mora is next to Ali???

    As for Gab’s point about Manfredo and Gomez, I agree — the only time I saw Manfredo “step it up” was for his rematch with Gomez — he seemed focused. Still, Gomez gave him a battle for his life, and I’d say Gomez only lost that fight by a few punches. Gomez is the “People’s Choice” of the Contender for the very fact that he has heart and people can see that in him, while others don’t see that quality in Manfredo. I think Manfredo LOVES boxing, but he doesn’t have a hard punch or anything in his punching reportoire that defines him. Sergio, for example, can move “like a snake.” Sergio constantly shifts and changes styles, and his combinations are lightning and EFFECTIVE! So there you have it.

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  167. sexc jamie

    i just want to say dat i think mora is a cocky shit, he really is. i watched the fight with najai da other day, and he woz sooo cocky, it bugged me. lol. anyway dats wot i think

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  168. gabby

    Todd:you never change!haha!(dont take it the wrong way ok)
    well gomes doesnt have muscle but he has heart!
    sergio is fast as hell with some power punches!
    manfredo has power punches and a lot of combinations!
    everyone of them have something good!
    all of them have one thing they have a big heart for boxing and ther family!

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  169. Todd

    Good observation ’bout me Gab…I must learn to be a good boy…grow up and start acting my age! I’m going to make a prediction here & now — I’m going to bet that the next Contender bout will be GOMEZ V. MORA…and Gomez is going to win it. All he has to do is bulk up a little. He’s got the hand speed and a stinging punch, and the heart not to go down. He may have some problems with Mora though, since Mora knows how to slither round the ring and Gomez will have to find a way inside. It’ll be a good one, tell u that. LET’S TAKE A VOTE: WHO WOULD WIN IN A GOMEZ VS. MORA BOUT?

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  170. Todd

    As far as Jesse Brinkley, he’s a really cool guy and all, but he was fat – like a little dough boy when he fought last time. Yet the guy walks away with a win after getting beaten up by Bonsanti. What’s up with that?!

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  171. Todd1

    As far as Brinkley, he’s a really cool guy and all, but he was fat – like a little dough boy when he fought last time. Yet the guy walks away with a win after getting beaten up by Bonsanti. What’s up with that?!

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  172. Charlotte

    hey guys

    ive missed this web site
    Mora is a good fighter yes do agree but peter did win the rematch fair and square every one no’s even sergio!

    Peter is still boxing with a gr8 coach on his side.

    I cnt wait till the new contender comes out it is gonna be real gd
    so u betta watch it!!!!!!

    Todd mora wud win the bout against gomez by far not saying gomez cnt fight cuz he can but mora is the stronger man ]

    what dya think

    lv ya

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  173. Sean

    Hey everyone just wanted to say that im no boxin judge but i definately thought manfredo won the rematch hands down. ive been a big fan of his ever since the first series of the contender and good luck to him in the future – he deserves it! and as for mora vs gomez…well lets just say gomez wouldnt go down without a fight and he could win it (so long as they wernt fightin in LA) but i have to say sergios the better fighter.

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  174. gabby

    that is a hart one well sergio is a snake and has power punches, gomes has hart and he never gives up so will just have to see!
    but i kind of like gomes better because he showed every one that a little man can do big things!

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  175. Charlotte

    hey y’all

    i was wid peter and jesse yesterday and i asked them both about the fight between mora and gomez and they both sed mora wud win but gomez wudnt give up like!
    gomez has heart and all but his punches are much weaker than mora’s.

    yES GOMEZ BEAT PETER…..BUT PETER CUM BK PETER OVER ESTIMATED GOMEZ THE FIRST TIME THEY FOUGHT THINKING GOMEZ WOUDN’T STAND A CHANCE BUT THEN ON THE REMATCH PETER DIDN’T EVEN NO IF HE WAS GONNA WIN AGEN!

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  176. Charlotte

    I was wid peter and jesse yesterday and i asked them about the fight wid mora and gomez and they both thought mora would win Gomez has less stronger punches than mora.

    Gomez had a heart yeh and i love him to bits everyone does but his punches need to be harder and more reliable to him.

    People over estimate him alot…..but the people who no him the most no what sort of fighter he actully is and he is getting better with all the training he is doing he still is a learner but a very gd one!!!

    i love gomez to bits everyone does but he wudnt be strong enough to beat mora mayb in a couple of years time.

    Sean i told manfredo what u sed about him and the good luck part. He told me to say thank you very much anythink any one says about him boosts his confidence even more thank you

    lv ya xx

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  177. sexc jamie

    ah charloote cnt belive u woz with jessie yesterday lol! and peter! im so jelous…. tell them jamie said theyre both soooo cute n r great fighters lol… plzzzzzz lol

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  178. Todd1

    Well, I don’t know bout the cute part SexiJ!, but I’ll say that Jessie and pter can come over to my apartment any time for a beer to chill and talk boxing! Charlotte—where cha been?! Glad to see you back though!

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  179. @#$%

    excuse ma todd, ima she… and mohammed ali is ma dude. hes from where im from same religin i got.. dont say his name, u lil boy aint got no permission for his name to come out ya mouth. sergio could never stand next to him..he’ll get knocked out, he aint ready to roll with the big guns yet. n im not tryin hate on him. i tell is how it is. manfredo is ready he knows what hes doin. i mean look at him u can tell hes pro, and hes ready for whatever.

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  180. Charlotte

    i’m in america so ive been busy wid family
    lol good to hear from u all

    what u all bin up 2

    i’m lukin after peters daughters 2day alexis and mercadies lol

    lv ya

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  181. Arturo

    Todd thanks a lot for the books ive already started reading them and finished 2 already I though they were going to be really thick but there a moderate size so I was surprised by that but thank you very much. As for peter and Sergio there both really good fighters and they both have different positives and negatives Sergio at the beginning I thought he was a cocky bastard but when he started talking about diff strategies and fighting smart I seen that he was just trying to mess wit the boxers heads and most of the times he did which really impressed me as for peter I was never really impressed by him getting beat by Alfonso and then coming back and complaining he wasn’t ready if you lose you lose a warrior should always be ready to go to war and peter never came out big in any of his fights I haven’t seen the rematch but I dunno. Ill have to see to give my opinion about that 2. and I think Alonso and Sergio would be a pretty good match.

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  182. Sean

    nice one charlotte thnks for passin on the msg. n i read a few of the comments u lot put n i gotta say ur pretty bitchy. well the boys were neway, weirdly enough. so does ne1 knw nethin about the second contender series? im guessin there doin it with a loada nu ppl but i dunno…

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  183. Todd1

    Arturo–glad to be of some help to you. I think Arturo got it right bout Manfredo: he shouldn’t have gotten his ass kicked the first go around by Gomez. Sure, he came back, but c’mon…and allow the 2nd rematch to go to the judges?!! He should have taken Mora’s head off if he is the “warrior” he claims to be…and he almost lost that fight to JOEY GILBERT…remember him?? The headbutt stopped that fight, but I thought it was going Joey’s way. I WANNA SEE MORA V. BONSANTI — BONSANT IS AN ANIMAL…(He got knocked out pretty bad though against Brinkley with that lucky punch.

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  184. EJ

    i am a huge peter manfredo fan and that final decison was bill####. I demand another rematch those judges didnt only score that fight wrong but the fight before it as well. i was routing for jesse brinkley in the previous fight and i honostly admit he did not win. i was heartbroken to stay up untill 2 in the morning to watch my hero step in the ring and put up one hell of a fight. bottomline is those judges sucked big time and crused the heart of me a 13 year old boy. by the way sergio mora SUCKS to

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  185. @#$%

    that dont mean shyt. PLEASE YOU AINT SHYT. YOUR KHARA. KHARA ALAC O ALA IMAC.. GO ASK MOHAMMED WHAT THAT MEANS U LIL BITCH.

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  186. gabby

    HEY,
    SERGIO IS THE CONTENDER!
    MANFREDO IS NOT BUT THE LAST FIGHT WAS ALL MANFREDOS! THEY ARE BOTH GOOD!
    PHIL:DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING AGAISNT LATINOS BECAUSE I AM ONE AND IM PROUT!
    THIS IS ABOUT SERGIO AND MANFREDO NOT ABOUT IF WE ARE LATINO OR NOT OK!

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  187. Todd1

    Get em’ Gabby!! That PHIL character is talking shit about Latinos, no doubt about it! And I got this no brain idiot ‘JESSE’ character calling me an “Italian cocksucker.” Who the hell is this JESSE guy any way? Does any one in here know this moron? Yo Jesse and Phil, go fuck a duck, you pricks. Even the 13-year old EJ has more damn respect than JESSE and PHIL — TWO IDIOTS!

    HEY JESSE AND PHIL…KEEP UP THE WISE ASS RACIST REMARKS AND GABBY AND ME WILL MAKE THE TWO OF YOU OUR BITCHES!! I’D LOVE TO BITCH SLAP THAT OTHER JIHADI GUY — HIS SCREEN NAME IS @#$% & he likes celebrating blowing up buildings and celebrating September 11th —

    I HAVE A MESSAGE FOR @#$% AND ALL OTHER JIHADIS ON HERE WHO CELEBRATE MURDER OF INNOCENT PEOPLE: U STUPID, ASS PICKIN’, TURBIN-WEARING, SNOT-NOSE, TWINKIE-EATING, BIG-FAT-ASS-CHEEKS, NO BALLS, LIL’ DICK, NO BRAIN, DIRT-BETWEEN-YOUR-TOES, FINGER-UP-YOUR-ASS-LICKIN’-TERRORIST-BITCH…GO TO HELL!!

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  188. charlotte

    jesse : u can piss off yeh leave todd and manfredo out of this

    todd is safe and at the end of the day no one takes the piss out of my family so leave manfredo out of this k

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  189. Todd1

    Thanks Charl. for having my back…these guys Phil and that Jihadi are just whacked. It’s like you can go on talking to them for hours and they’ll just curse and make no sense. Now that’s what I call dumb bastards!

    I’m glad to hear the Contender is having women — thanks for that info Char — I watched Muhammad Ali’s daughter fight a few months ago and she is an incredible boxer (and really hot too!). I suppose that the winner of the Contender II will fight Sergio, assuming he’s still holding the belt.

    I think we might see a Mora-Manfredo III because of the controversial decision for Mora. I’ll say this: If Manfredo loses the next fight, whatever the circumstance, we won’t be seeing him any more, at least for Contender bouts. While I liked watching Mora/Manfredo/Jesse/Gomez, I’d like to see some of the other boxers on the show — Joey Gilbert, Bonsanti, Ishe Smith, and that little guy who got the chicken pox who later fought on the first reunion and kicked some ass. peace

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  190. gabby

    you guys need to stop fighting!
    PHIL: WE KNOW THAT DO LIKE MANFREDO BUT YOU NEED TO STOP TALKING ABOUT SERGIO AND HIS FANS BECAUSE IM BIG FAN OF SERGIO AND MANFREDO AND DO YOU SEE ME TALKING BAD ABOUT THEM NO!
    ITS OK IF YOU GUYS LIKE SOMEONE BUT IT DOESNT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO TALK BAD ABOUT THE PERSON WHO IS FIGHTING WITH THEM!I HOPE I MADE MY POINT CLEAR!

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  191. Todd1

    GABBY: This guy Phil’s got no class…look at how he’s cursing people out up and down, and with no reason. I got this JESSE guy calling me and Manfredo “Italian cocksuckers,” and I still don’t have a clue why. They’re just WHACKED!!!!

    What really bugs me is how people are saying that Manfredo won that fight OUT AND OUT. Take a look at round 3, or maybe it was 4…Manfredo was getting hit by a flurry of punches…and though Manfredo looked better than that first match, IT JUST WASN’T ENOUGH. I watched the fight again and it proved to me that Mora’s cut early on GIVES THE IMPRESSION THAT MANFREDO IS WINNING. BUT, IT WAS CLOSER THAN MANFREDO FANS WANT TO BELIEVE. Manfredo still hasn’t earned my respect…he took a beating by Gomez in the first fight and I’m sorry, but that’s inexusable for A GUY RANKED THIRD IN THE WORLD…c’mon, think about it. And this guy Mora only had a handful of professional fights — and most of the guys he beat were bums with losing records. So, Manfredo has yet to PROVE HIMSELF.

    I can’t believe how people are so ignorant to what I’m saying here. What I’d like to hear is from Manfredo fans at least admit what I’m saying.

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  192. saiful islam

    i’m gonna become boxer soon probably win the next olympics get a gold medal for britain an when i turn pro i hope moras still in the fight business cos im gonna kick his ass- o ye i 15 and a half by the way 6’1 168 pounds an i FAST POWERFUL AND GOT LIGHTNIN REFLEXES

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  193. Todd1

    SAIFUL ISLAM:

    FIRST NOBLE TRUTH:
    “Don’t be a stupid ass.”

    SECOND NOBLE TRUTH:
    Don’t use the “F” word unless you’re extremely mad, and in that case use it only orally, never written.

    THIRD NOBLE TRUTH
    Respect your elders.

    FOURTH NOBLE RULE
    Find the way

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  194. charlotte

    hey y’all

    i cant be arsed to tell ya to stop arguin lol

    but it is kinda getting funny listening to ya all

    meet up and then c who the bigger man is yeh!!!!

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  195. gabby

    TODD1:PLEACE SET AN EXAMPLE AND STOP FIGHTING THANKS!
    ITS OK IF YOU GUYS DONT LIKE A PERSON BUT IT DOESNT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO TALK BAD ABOUT THEM OK!
    THANKS!

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  196. Todd1

    I would love to box saiful islam (AKA JIHADI GUY). You guys are just little boys. GABBY — YOU’RE 13?? I thought you were at least 19 or 20.

    I would set an example, if people just stopped messing with me, trash talking and saying nasty, vulgar remarks. What’s wrong with you people…esp. ISLAM AND PHIL!
    I SAY GROW UP!!

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  197. Todd1

    HEY CHARLOTTE, Does Peter own a big house? I mean, he made 250 grand for the first match, and I’m sure he did okay the second time. I heard boxers spend money going out of style. Is Manfredo responsible…or a bling blinger?

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  198. charlotte

    yeh he owns a big house
    he spends money on his wife and daughters he is a family man relli

    todd how old r ya?

    im 15

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  199. ronnie moss

    i am a big peter fan he is 1 hell of a fighter and was truely the winer of the rematch 4 a boxer 2 say after a fight the decision was wrong he has got a point does any1 know were 2 watch the rematch again email me please..

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  200. Todd1

    I’m 26…my momma raised me on a farm in Vermont, but we moved east when I was 18, to New York City, where I am now, working as a lawyer.
    Thanks for the info CHARL…I figured Manfredo was a family man. He seems like a good guy and I thought he might of lived in an apartment.

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  201. Todd1

    Good point gabster! Hell, we didn’t have an internet when I was growing up…we just had some stinky old computers that had a few boring games on it — that’s it!

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  202. Charlotte

    yeh il get peter to come on here 2 send an email
    he has seen it on here b4 ive shown him lol

    when he is not busy next i will get him on here

    lv ya

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  203. Spoons

    im shantanu from india.
    me and all my friends saw the contender here and we saw sergio kick ass and prove that he IS inface THE CONTENDER. buttt then we saw him lose to the new-and-improved Peter Manfredo Jr. sergio wuz sloppy and plain out lazy in the match inflectin less pain than a mosquito would…wut we’d (me and my friends in india) love to see is one final match between these 2 so we know EXACTLY who deserves the championship..and if mora does somehow manage to beat manfredo again..which i doubt,,the million dollars definitely got to him,,i’d love to see him defend it against superman gomez..u know wut? we’d love to see whoever wins that match to fight superman and see if they can beat him..he’s jus flat out AMAZING right now..
    peace

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  204. charlotte

    juan needs more training he is still young and still gets hurt he is still fighting and all.

    Same wid joey he is still fighting n all but not that much

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  205. gabby

    THIS IS BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    WELL SERGIO IM REAL HAPPY FOR YOU I HOPE EVERYTHING IN YOUR LIFE GOES WELL ALL WAYS BE HAPPY AND FOR ME YOU ARE THE BEST IN THE WORLD AND ALL US LATINOS ARE REAL PROUT OF YOU KEEP ON REPRISENTING US LATINOS!
    VIVA MEXICO!!
    FELIZ CUMPLEANOS VIRGENSITA DE GUADALUPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  206. sexc jamie

    THIS IS BORINGGGGGG..
    DYA NO WOT, I AM HAPPY 4 ALL OF DEM, THEY ALL DUN GUD , WHATS THE POINT DISSING THEM? WELL DUN AND GUD LUCK IN DA FUTURE TO ALL OF THE CONTENDER! 1

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  207. Todd

    Yo yo yo yo, ho ho ho ho — I ain’t no New Year’s hoe, ya know, but I tell you I be beaten you’re freakin’ asses – no I don’t wear glasses, but wear’in my hands of steal, get real y’all, The real Todd be back, don’t be whack, be nice and say “hi” before I make you cry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TODD IS BACK, WHO WANTS TO F’ WITH ME AND GABBY AND CHAR. AND SEXC JAMIE, DAT LIL’ HOTTIE, CUS WE DA OLD SCHOOL BUNCH!!!

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  208. Todd

    Hi Ken Savage: I just want to wish you and your family, especially that little cute boy you have, a wonderful Christmas and Happy New Year, and to thank you for putting together this wild and crazy web page, which, I believe, in due time, will become the “Official” Contender website!!! Hey, you never know…think of all the money you’ll make! :-)

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  209. Todd

    And yo Gab, I like you and all, but your ass is sounding way to patriotic…and if I may say, GAY AS HELL THESE DAYS! Don’t believe me? Read what GAB wrote:

    “WELL SERGIO IM REAL HAPPY FOR YOU I HOPE EVERYTHING IN YOUR LIFE GOES WELL ALL WAYS BE HAPPY AND FOR ME YOU ARE THE BEST IN THE WORLD AND ALL US LATINOS ARE REAL PROUT OF YOU KEEP ON REPRISENTING US LATINOS!
    VIVA MEXICO!!
    FELIZ CUMPLEANOS VIRGENSITA DE GUADALUPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(BY THE WAY SERGIO, MY HOT LATIN LOVER…DO YOU THINK WE CAN GO ON A DATE, MAYBE YOU CAN CUM TO MY HOUSE AND WE CAN WATCH ‘MOTORCYCLE DIARIES’, BECAUSE I LOVE CUBAN MEN, BUT EVEN MORE SO STRONG LATIN MEN, LIKE YOU, AND I LOVE THOSE SKINNY LEGS OF YOURS, WHICH I WANNA WRAP AROUND MY HEAD WHILE YOU TIE ME UP AND BEAT ME. I LOVE YOU TWINKLES!)”

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  210. gabby

    HEY TODD NICE TO HAVE YOU BACK I MISED YOU SO MUCH THIS THING IS SO BORING WIT OUT YOU!!!!!
    BY THE WAY WHO WROTE THIS:
    (BY THE WAY SERGIO, MY HOT LATIN LOVER…DO YOU THINK WE CAN GO ON A DATE, MAYBE YOU CAN CUM TO MY HOUSE AND WE CAN WATCH ‘MOTORCYCLE DIARIES’, BECAUSE I LOVE CUBAN MEN, BUT EVEN MORE SO STRONG LATIN MEN, LIKE YOU, AND I LOVE THOSE SKINNY LEGS OF YOURS, WHICH I WANNA WRAP AROUND MY HEAD WHILE YOU TIE ME UP AND BEAT ME. I LOVE YOU TWINKLES!)”

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  211. Baby Charlotte

    heya yall

    todd ive missed u to i really have gaby has a point it is boring without u!!

    I cnt wait till x-mas

    and gaby stop dreaming cuz it aint gonna cum true darling lmao!!!!

    Peter manfredo and family are doing great and there all well

    love ya

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  212. Todd

    Gab – I’m not sure…it came to my personal email address @yahoo the other day, somebody from this site, obviously. It just said, “Where are you Todd? We’re missing your ass. Then it said something like…”Get this: Gabby is a faggot! Below it the person cut and paste what I posted, from you, I thought. You’re not gay, are you? I mean, if you are, I have nothing against gay people…it’s your life and your business if you are gay.

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  213. Todd

    BTW: Shout out to Gab and Char — Todd is back…just busy for the holiday – missed you guys…and girls! What’s up with Contender these days? Any word on upcoming fights? I think there will be a Manfredo-Mora III because of the controversy surrounding the last one, to settle the score. I like Manfredo, but it’s going to be a tough one. Snake’s got a bite.

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  214. gabby

    ok did i miss something!!
    charlotte stop dreaming about wat?
    i was asking todd who wrote this:
    (BY THE WAY SERGIO, MY HOT LATIN LOVER…DO YOU THINK WE CAN GO ON A DATE, MAYBE YOU CAN CUM TO MY HOUSE AND WE CAN WATCH ‘MOTORCYCLE DIARIES’, BECAUSE I LOVE CUBAN MEN, BUT EVEN MORE SO STRONG LATIN MEN, LIKE YOU, AND I LOVE THOSE SKINNY LEGS OF YOURS, WHICH I WANNA WRAP AROUND MY HEAD WHILE YOU TIE ME UP AND BEAT ME. I LOVE YOU TWINKLES!)”

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  215. TODD

    Somebody who is managing this site keeps deleting my email — Mr. Savage…would you mind, please? Gabby, what I said is somebody contacted me through my personal email and told me you were a faggot, and gave me that piece I cut and pasted above. I figured you were a male, since the email called you a fag.

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  216. TODD

    Mr. Savage, would you knock it off, please??? Why do you persist on being a censor board with my postings? For what? For whom? To maintain some ephemeral integrity for your web page, for your ability to market your…prose? Are you kidding me?

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  217. TODD

    I’m just trying to resolve whether gabby is a male or female. Now that I think of it, at one point, I thought GABBY was an old man, like over 65. Then Gab later said he was 13, but I didn’t buy that. I’m going with the anonymous e-mailer who said GAB IS GAY AS HELL! And hey, that’s cool if he is, I don’t have anything against the fact he’s gay – what he does with his penis is his own damn business – just don’t go sticking that thing over by me, or I’ll kick yo ass!

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  218. Ken Savage Post author

    Please be respectful of other people here and try not to degrade of slander any specific person. Discussion is very healthy and I’m glad we can all talk about this and get it out int he public.

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  219. sexc jamie

    i avent even seen the rematch between peter manfredo and mora….! can any 1 send it some how? im from england by the way.. is that y i havent seen the rematch?

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  220. TODD

    Hey Sexc Jamie girl!!! Where cha been, missed ya this much
    and that’s as far as I can stretch out my arms! :-) HAPPY 18TH girl!!!!! Is your B-Day today?…u should have told me, I would have made sure we all sent you somethin pretty and nice’! :-)

    BTW, be sure to check in once in a while at the other site mora/manfredo “REMATCH” to see who’s posted — I haven’t heard from Char. lately, hope she comes back though. btw, Happy Valentine’s Day Sexc Jamie to you in England from Todd here in New Yawk! :-)

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  221. charlotte

    hey guys
    sorry i havent been on here l8erly
    i have had a lot of things to do wid the family and all.
    We all met up with the contenders over chritsmas and we met all thier familys sly and sugar were there it was wiked

    xxxx

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  222. TODD

    YO GABBY!!!!! WHAT’S GOING ON?! I MISSED YOUR POST THE OTHER DAY! YOU BACK OR WHAT?! Look, as far as US and Iran, don’t worry, the USA won’t be invading them any time soon…we got enough problems over there in Iraq, trust me. Ask me if I’d go over to Iraq to fight for our country? HELL NO! I’d rather chill in my apartment with a six-pack of Guiness and watch The Contender reruns! I ain’t getting any shrapnel in my ass, know what I’m saying?! Hey, I protest the war; I’d really like to see more people like Peter Manfredo and Sergio Mora protesting the Iraq War, not to mention Tom Cruise and the rest of those Hollywood asses, not to mention pop singers, etc. Everybody is afraid of ruining their little career, so they keep their mouth plugged. So much for democracy. One thing is for sure, I can’t depend on that stupidass Bush.

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  223. hannah

    i think whoever saod that peter is gay you are wrong cus hes got a daughter and a girlfriend and he wouldny do that to them

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  224. charlotte

    peter is feeling well happy with how his boxing is going lol and is waiting to here for his nxt fight!

    Jesse Brinkley is fyn aswell and he is still training wid ma uncle!

    Im back over in the uk for a week next week but then im flying bk out 2 the us to stay for gd yeh!!!!

    xxxxxxxxxx

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  225. charlotte

    peter iaint gay anyways i can bet my life on it!

    To be living with him n to be wid him on a day to day basis i no he is a different peron!
    No1 can call my cousin gay!!!!!

    He has 2 daughters by the way!

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  226. TODD

    Yo Hannah what’s going on? Your first time visiting here? You a Manfredo or Mora fan? I agree with you, Manfredo is not gay, and whoever said that is just being an idiot. Are you on the east or west coast?

    Yo Char, did you say that you’re moving to England in two weeks? Wow-

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  227. hannah

    im soo bored no 1 chattin 2 me i feel like a idiot .so todd tell about yourself wen u read this cus i would like 2 know someone here and the only cool ppl are you and charlotte

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  228. hannah

    ok i better go bye everyone and take care charlotte i hope ya trip goes good.
    i was wondering ,wat religion is peter -this question is bugging me for ages.

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  229. Charlotte

    no no
    im origanlly from england but in america at the mo, im going bk over to england next week for a week and then im moving bk to america for good!

    i cnt wait were moving just around the corner from Peter!
    xx

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  230. sexc jamie

    hi people aint been on here 4 ages! hi todd and char!, ino i chat 2 u char on msn , jus thought id say hi anyways lol….

    jamie loving jessie AND PETER 4 EVaa xx x XX

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  231. gabby

    WHO IS THE HANNAH GURL? WELL ANYWAYS WELCOME!!
    YEAH IM HERE SO WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON???
    I AGREE WITH YOU TODD I PROTEST AGAINST THE WAR IS NOT OR FOULT THAT TWO PRESIDENTS DONT LIKE EACH OTHER!!!
    AND HANNAH IM NOT IRAN OR IRAQ IM MEXICAN!!

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  232. TODD

    Does anyone else realize that these forums just sort of disappear and reappear? Am I in the twilight zone or something?

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  233. Mark

    Just watched Against the Ropes with Meg Ryan and found that its all about Karen from the Contender? Got me thinking as to what the hell happened to Mora? Wasnt the whole idea of the show so he could have a shot at the title? As he hasnt had a fight since winning a million bucks, I guess he has quite boxing. Does anyone know? Makes me think that the whole show was a con like most other reality shows. I had my suspicions watching the fights as they seemed to be all staged for maximum drama.

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  234. Mandy

    Sergio is full of shit, he didn’t win that fight. Peter won that fight till the end. He went strong till the end. Peter beat his ass….Peter should have knocked Sergio’s ass out when he was talking all that sh*t. Peter stood strong till the end. He won that fight fair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I never really like watching boxing until I saw Peter fight, keep going strong Peter, you are the true PRIDE of the Contender…I would love to see Peter fight!!!! From Virgina – LOVE MANDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  235. gabby

    A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY HOW MANFREDO WON THE FIGHT IN MY EYES IT WAS A CLOSE FIGHT. IT WILL BE BETTER IF MANFREDO AND SERGIO MORE FIGHT AGAIN AND SEE WHO IS THE REAL CONTENDER!!!
    WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK???

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  236. jenny

    hey peteris the chapion of The Contender i think everyone knows that by now i wish him all the best in life.

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